joanncat18 Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 Ok, so on my 4" apothecary jar (thought it was 3.75, but is more like 4 inches) tests are finally done. I posted previously when I started these tests. http://www.craftserver.com/forums/showthread.php?t=83847&highlight=test+underwayI tested 4 candles at the same time with 4 different wicks. I used HTP 105, Zinc 60-14-18, LX 24, and CD 18. My wax is Acu Para 30 (which is 70% para and 30% soy). I used 6% FO. I only burned for 3 hours each time...probably should have been 4 in retrospect. Here is how the candles ended up at the bitter end...First 2 are HTP, 2nd are zinc, 3rd are LX, and 4th is CD.I am thinking I need to work on a method to get my wicks centered better since a few of the candles had lots of hang up on one side and not so much on the other. Here are a few points from my notes:HTP- The wax from the "shoulder" of the glass didn't really start melting off till like the 8th burn. 0.15 oz/hr burn rate. Glass never got too hot to touch. Did have some sooting. First candle to burn out. Ended up with 2.6 oz wax still left in jar. Zinc- Noticed wax starting to melt off sides around the 5th burn. .13 oz/hr burn rate. Did have mushrooms, but I trimmed wick each burn to 1/4 inch. Also had some sooting. Was second to last to burn out on the 19th burn. 1.8 oz wax left in jar. Never got to hot to handle. LX- Had smallest MP at first. And smallest flame at the start. Had some muchrooms, trimmed wick before each burn. Wax started to melt off sides aroung 5th burn. 0.17 oz/hr burn rate. Had soot on jar. Jar got quite hot toward the end, but I was still able to touch it. Least amount of hang up and wax left. 1.3 oz wax left in jar. Last to burn out on 19th burn. CD- Had largest flame and MP at first. Had sooting. Wax started melting from sides around 5th burn. 0.18 oz/hr burn rate. A couple times this jar was a little to hot to touch on the neck. 2nd candle to burn out in the 17th burn. 2.3 oz wax left in jar. No hang up on one side, with quite a bit on the other...So there was sooting, but still quite a bit of wax left in these jars. I know they are difficult to single wick so I will take any suggestions you have. I poured another one wickless and I am going to insert a wick to start with but don't know where to go with wicking now. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christy Doc Holley Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 might just be better to double wick'em Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deb426 Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 Yeah, I always double wick those little apoths. Especially using soy wax which tends to burn down before out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grama Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 I double wick that jar with cd's. Much better imo than a single wick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joanncat18 Posted July 13, 2009 Author Share Posted July 13, 2009 I will try double wicking but where do i start on picking a size? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deb426 Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 Try double wicking with LX 14's to start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grama Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 If it is the 10oz apoth I double wick with CD 8. That works in just about all my scents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flicker Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 A couple suggestions. If you really want to single wick, there are still options available. I'd steer clear of wicks with zinc if your blend has soy in it. Since the HTP 105 did not cut it, I'd maybe test the 126, 1212 and 1312 to see if any of those will work. In the CD series if the 18 did not work there is still the 20 and 22. A wick that isn't burning correctly will often both soot and mushroom or one or the other.I personally am going to bet like many others that double wicking is going to be a better option though. Maybe start with two CD 8's and go from there. Glad to see you've put so much into testing and documenting! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeahRB Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 Wow. I think I see now why you are having headaches. You are a power tester. Good job. Hope you get it figured out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joanncat18 Posted July 14, 2009 Author Share Posted July 14, 2009 Leah,Yeah I was burining those 4 at a time...I have slowed down and I am actually only burning one right now and it's unscented. I double wicked this one with 2 CD 8's...we will see. No headaches for now. Then I poured a "Duck Farts" candle last night...lol I just can't burn unscented for long, but I wont burn 4 at a time anymore. I have all these great scents I want to try. I made duck farts purple because it reminded me of a mallard duck with the purple on their wings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeahRB Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 I have never heard of the FO duck farts. Where did you get it and what does it smell like? (I had to ask). Well, let's just hope your headaches don't return. Oh and I know what you mean about the FOs. I can't hardly stand to have FOs sitting around that have not been tested. I guess I'm just too curious to see how they turn out in the finished product. Happy testing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisR Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 I'd use (2) LX12's first before trying the LX14's. You'll probably get a full MP about the 3rd. burn. Good luck!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joanncat18 Posted July 14, 2009 Author Share Posted July 14, 2009 Leah, duck farts is from Aztec. It's a fruity blend...I am not very good at describing fragrances. But it smells good. I know fruit doesn't make sense but I wouldn't want it to actually smell like a duck fart...lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jane42 Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 We really wanted to single wick these jars also, but were never able to do it successfully. We double-wick them and love the look.Good Luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeriM Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 I also double wick those... I wasted way to much wax trying to single wick them... I use WSP Crafters Choice and use 2 44 zinc... works like a charm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christy Doc Holley Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 I have never heard of the FO duck farts. Where did you get it and what does it smell like? (I had to ask). Well, let's just hope your headaches don't return. Oh and I know what you mean about the FOs. I can't hardly stand to have FOs sitting around that have not been tested. I guess I'm just too curious to see how they turn out in the finished product. Happy testing! the duck farts made me chuckle hope you are having a better time wicking and no headaches ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lrbd Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 Hi, I am struggling here with this same probelm . Using Libbey Lucida jar 4 inc. What was your final conclusion? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joanncat18 Posted August 7, 2009 Author Share Posted August 7, 2009 I am currently trying another jar because I don't want to double wick. I will probably use these jars for glass glow and double wick them. I will see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lrbd Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 I think I may have to do the same. I hate double wicking. I hated giving up my galss for this new one. i don't seem to have much choice. Your glass glow is so pretty . I never heard of them . Something new for me to learn. thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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