OverSoyed Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 As I said previously, we are working on our B&B line. Last night's project was lip balms. We purchased Flavor Oils from WSP and I'm not getting the taste at all. I assumed there would be some taste to them, after all, flavor implies taste, but nothing at all. We didn't add any sweetener at first, then we tried with a packet of Equal, and it didn't incorporate. I've read all the posts regarding sweetening lip balms, and there doesn't seem to be a consensus.I've already laid out $1,000 on supplies, and don't care to spend much more. I don't want to have super sweet balm, but enough to at least taste what the flavor is. The scent of the oils are great... but you just can't taste them.Is there anything at the grocery I can pick up that will work? Stevia? Splenda? Liquid Sugar? HELP!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WendyByTheBay Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 I use Bittercreek's flavors. They are pre sweetened so that's one less thing I got to worry about. I let my balms sit for a few days before I try them, they seem to need to cure a bit. Maybe that's all your needs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
debratant Posted June 19, 2009 Share Posted June 19, 2009 If I'm not mistaken...the flavor oils from WSP are not sweetened. I ordered some of the kiss kwenchers from Bittercreek for that reason....they're pre-sweetened. What about honey? Not sure if that's ok to use...I'm a lip balm newbie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OverSoyed Posted June 19, 2009 Author Share Posted June 19, 2009 I tried Sweet n Low in the first batch... not sweet at all... and grainy.I tried Slenda in the second batch.... sweeter but not by much.Next I'm going with Truvia and Equal.I wanted to get liquid sweetener, but WM didn't have any.I was also going to try Agave Syrup, but I was worried that it would turn the balms brown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CandleMama6 Posted June 19, 2009 Share Posted June 19, 2009 I also buy mine from Bitter Creek for the fact that they are already sweetened and I don't have to deal with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OverSoyed Posted June 19, 2009 Author Share Posted June 19, 2009 Well... it seems like everyone is torn between liking them sweetened, and not liking them sweetened. But if they aren't sweet, what's the point of scenting them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdesousa5 Posted June 19, 2009 Share Posted June 19, 2009 Just to have a nice smell instead of wax smell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DREWSMOM Posted June 19, 2009 Share Posted June 19, 2009 I've used the 'sweet berries' scent of WSP's flavor oil and I didn't like it either. It didn't have any flavor once it sat for a while. All you could end up tasting was the coconut oil in my recipe.I thought that maybe if I sweetened it with liquid stevia it would make it better. I haven't tried it out yet though.I've heard that's a good sweetner for lip balms. I'm just going to try another brand next time or use candy flavoring from the cake store. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
van_yulay Posted June 20, 2009 Share Posted June 20, 2009 I use stevia, It is perfect for lip balms! Ö¿Ö Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carrie Posted June 20, 2009 Share Posted June 20, 2009 I don't sweeten my lip balms and I don't buy sweetened flavors either. IMO, the "flavors" are really scents that trick your brain into believing you taste them. If they are sweet, people will lick their lips, their lips get dry and they think you make sucky lip balm. I got a lip balm in a swap the other day and it was so sweet I had to wipe it off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaylors Kreations Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 I'm with Carrie, I don't like my balms sweetened, usually (got one in a swap in a Root Beer flavor and its touch of sweet rules!). I don't sweeten my balms and have never had anyone ask for them to be sweet.I don't label them as 'flavored' specifically, and do explain that balms that seem to be flavored are just sweetened, and the brain attaches actual flavor to the product because the mouth tastes the sweet (or tart depending on the fragrance). I don't sweeten for the same reason as Carrie, too... Sweet means lip licking which means they wear off the balm faster and end up with the same dry lips they had before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edensong Posted June 24, 2009 Share Posted June 24, 2009 I don't sweeten my lip balms and I don't buy sweetened flavors either. IMO, the "flavors" are really scents that trick your brain into believing you taste them. If they are sweet, people will lick their lips, their lips get dry and they think you make sucky lip balm. I got a lip balm in a swap the other day and it was so sweet I had to wipe it off.I feel pretty much the same about sweet stuff on my lips. It makes me feel like there's food that needs to licked off. :rolleyes2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndulgentCreations Posted June 24, 2009 Share Posted June 24, 2009 Stevia is the way to go but as Carrie said sweetened lip balms really defeat the purpose as most ned up licking it off anyways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheQueen Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 "Flavor oils" don't actually flavor. They are a lip-safe fragrance oil. It has been noted in many places that if you sweeten a lip balm, folks will tend to lick their lips more which erodes the lip balm, thereby defeating the purpose of the balm. I prefer my lip balm unsweetened but do like the fragrance aspect of the "flavor" oil. You're simply fooling the taste buds through your nose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sister Kya Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 Well, I like a little sweetener in my balms and I don't feel that I lick my lips with it, but it takes all kinds to make up a world, right?I'm a fan of MMS Sugar Kisses and haven't used anything else yet. From all I've read, incorporating solid sweeteners (Equal, Splenda, etc.) into your balms is tricky at best and some call it downright impossible. Honey tends not to distribute evenly, leaving balms with pockets of honey in them.Honestly, if you're looking to create a quality product and have already invested $1,000, what's another few bucks for a bottle of quality balm sweetener? If time is money, you'll end up saving a lot in the end.Do a search for sweeten and you'll get a sense of the different products out there. Good Luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sporadic Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 You can find great flavor oils and stevia sweetener here:http://www.lipbalmtubes.com/Flavor-Oils-c-5.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
van_yulay Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 Has anyone used the mango from lipbalm tubes. I have having the hardest time getting the right flavor. I have used stevia in my lip balms for over 10 years now. I think the trick is not to use so much that it is so sweet. It is just to take the bit out. I dont lick my lips with mine, but everyone is different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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