singleyellowrose Posted December 26, 2008 Share Posted December 26, 2008 Is it possible to use tart/pillar wax (EcoSoya PB) for wickless candles? Reason I am asking is that if i can get away with only 1 wax as opposed to 2, that would be great! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Love2Scent Posted December 26, 2008 Share Posted December 26, 2008 Do you mean in jars? I guess you could but IMO you get a better throw with a softer wax in jars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolphin146 Posted December 27, 2008 Share Posted December 27, 2008 I use it in tins but not jars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singleyellowrose Posted December 27, 2008 Author Share Posted December 27, 2008 6.5oz tureens to be exact. Im just wondering if it would pull away from the jar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Druin Posted December 27, 2008 Share Posted December 27, 2008 Thank you for asking this! I have wondered the same thing. I make tarts, but some friends/family have favorite scents, so I wondered if I could use my tart wax to make them a wickless candle (a bigger tart as it were), instead of buying a new wax type. I would still mainly make tarts, so I don't want to invest in a new wax if my current wax will work and be safe in the container. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Love2Scent Posted December 27, 2008 Share Posted December 27, 2008 6.5oz tureens to be exact. Im just wondering if it would pull away from the jar.I would think it would pull away from the jar. Doesn't mean it won't work though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singleyellowrose Posted December 27, 2008 Author Share Posted December 27, 2008 I will try with already made tarts on the warmer to see how it works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Druin Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 I use it in tins but not jars.Can I ask why you use a pillar wax in tins but not in jars? Aren't they both containers? Is it a difference of the mouth opening?Thanks! This question has been on my mind for a while Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darbla Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 If you end up deciding you do need a softer wax, you could always buy a small quantity of a soft wax and mix it with your pillar wax. That's less of an investment than buying a bunch of a new wax. I don't have recommendations for a softer wax, though, but maybe some other crafters do. And you could always request a couple pounds in our classifieds forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singleyellowrose Posted January 1, 2009 Author Share Posted January 1, 2009 I think I am going to do 75soy/25para although the tarts IN a container seems to do fine as well. We shall see. I don't make candles, just wickless and tarts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissMary Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 I've done it, didn't sell it, wickless stuff like that didn't go well over time, but it works fine. I used IGI pillar wax (number eludes me atm). It was in an 8 oz. Apothecary.The only challenge to selling it, is after mixing at your temp... waiting, waiting, waiting- to get the closest temp to before skin forms, pour it and a couple of times you can go over it with a heat gun to get it to fit closely. You might also find you need a repour. It won't adhere to the sides, but if none of it does, it doesn't look bad. ETA: Mine almost looked like a rustic-ish look.The lower watt warmers do very well, when it resets it doesn't look bad either, because it barely heats up enough to really get the wax to get too hot to cause nasty shrinkage. When it cools there is a slight sinkhole, but I find it a good thing, because when I went to turn it back on, it actually takes less time for it to melt overall as the hotter wax seeped up a bit in the hole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolphin146 Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 Can I ask why you use a pillar wax in tins but not in jars? Aren't they both containers? Is it a difference of the mouth opening?Thanks! This question has been on my mind for a while In tins you cannot see the wax when it has pulled away from the container. The glass tureens I use you can see the wax has pulled away from the sides of the jar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Druin Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 Thanks Dolphin! I didn't know if it was due to safety reasons or cosmetic reasons - I appreciate your reply!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimmeroo Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 Could you add crisco to make the wax softer? No added expense that way. :smiley2: ... Good Luck! Kimmeroo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singleyellowrose Posted January 5, 2009 Author Share Posted January 5, 2009 For now, I think I am going to continue with the J223 in the tureens. It looks better after it has melted and set up again as opposed to the EcoSoyaPB in the same container.I also seem to get a better throw from the J223. Once I get through the PB, I may consider getting rid of the soy and doing a para tart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CandleMkrInTN Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 What about GB 444 for wickless jars/tins? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candybee Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 If you're just going to use the wax for personal use than I don't see why not. If you plan to sell wickless candles and tarts you really need to get container wax for the wickless and tart/pillar wax for the tarts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherl Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 A softer wax will melt quicker than the pillar type wax. And that is the whole idea behind that type of product. You have to go with the economics of what is best with you.. and if that is only one wax, make it work. Use shallower containers so it doesn't take as much heat to make them liquid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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