coconut Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 I have just started testing these two waxes. I believe the wax I have is the "old" Astorlite wax, which I picked up in the classys. I have been reading all the old J50 and J223 threads and heard quite a few complaints about the time IGI bought out these waxes. Now a few years later, what do you all think of these waxes? Have the issues stabilized? I expect to retest when I buy the IGI versions but would hate to think the old and new waxes are night and day. Thanks for your input. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clonefan80 Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 I like it better.....to me the burn time is slower and the melt pool is not quite as deep as the original 223. I did notice that on a couple of my heavier oils I did have to wick up, no biggie there. I did have to adjust a few of my colors (reds) as it holds dye just a tad differently than the original. But the best thing about it, adhesion, this wax adheres to the jar much better making it a more beautiful finished candle. Oh and a much better "one pour" wax, no repours for me. JMO .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bugtussle Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 I have used 223 for over 5 yrs and have really not noticed any differences in anything but the appearance of the wax in the slabs. It appears to be softer, but it pours, burns, and looks the same in candles. I have changed nothing in the past 5 yrs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredron Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 I've used J-50 (which I blend with other waxes) for several years, and have not noticed any change. Fredron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coconut Posted February 27, 2008 Author Share Posted February 27, 2008 Thank you all for your input! I feel more confident now in continuing my testing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candlemaker74 Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 Do you mean the new version of J223 which is now J225? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bugtussle Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 J223 & J225 are two completely different waxes Carole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coconut Posted February 27, 2008 Author Share Posted February 27, 2008 Do you mean the new version of J223 which is now J225?I mean the one listed on IGI's website as PARAFFLEX 4633A (J223). Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candlemaker74 Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 Oh, ok, then I won't chime in on the J225 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplykountry Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 I have used J223 for over 12 years and the only difference I have noticed is it is softer and I have to do more repours. They are too deep to smooth out with a heat gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candybee Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 Right now I am using J225 cause my supplier was out of the other J waxes. I miss them. I am not liking the J225. I get holes around the wick that have to be heat gunned out. No matter what temp I pour at... big holes around the wick. Other than that its okay but I am going back to the J50 and J223. I like both and will use them interchangebly cause I know what to expect from each. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coconut Posted February 29, 2008 Author Share Posted February 29, 2008 Right now I am using J225 cause my supplier was out of the other J waxes. I miss them. I am not liking the J225. I get holes around the wick that have to be heat gunned out. No matter what temp I pour at... big holes around the wick. Other than that its okay but I am going back to the J50 and J223. I like both and will use them interchangebly cause I know what to expect from each.Candybee, you said you like both J50 and J223 and you use them interchangeably. If I may ask, why do you use both waxes rather than one or the other? I am finding some differences in my testing (having to wick up for J50 compared to J223) and was having doubts about being able to use only one of them exclusively. Some scents seem to throw better with one than the other also. Previously I was using 4630 and all my scents throw well in that but the J waxes are a little different. I use the 4 oz jelly jar and can't get small enough wicks for some scents so that's why I am testing the J waxes. Thanks again for everyone's input! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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