el_roach_0 Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 okay. so last weekend i posted about how to make my candles give that awesome scent throw. i am using 4625, 24 ply flat braid wick, pillar candle (3 x 6.5 round), all from Peak. the scent is the French Vanilla. i added FO at 175 degrees then poured. i used 1 oz of FO to 1 lb of wax. i let the candle cure for 6 days. the scent is extremely light. could it be the FO or am i doing something wrong?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bugtussle Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 If you want a really strong candle, you will probably have to go to a container. IMHO, pillars are not known as fantastic throwers. The wax only holds 6%. Carole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pam W Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 You may want to experiment with other wick types. I have a vanilla blend tester going now and it's wicked with an Eco wick and I'm getting a really nice throw. I bounce back & forth between flat braids, cotton core and the Eco wicks. One FO wicked with a CC had a nice burn but weak throw - swapped it out for an Eco and there was a huge difference in the throw. Have another FO that I was about to give up on and decided to try one more wick - that one did the trick which really made my day cause I love the scent so much.You will find as you test, some FOs do not give that in-your-face throw that so many people expect from ever scent they pour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joym Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 Try testing with a different fragrance oil - then you'll have a better idea - (Sorry, I don't use the wax or fo you are using, so can't give a more definite answer.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el_roach_0 Posted February 24, 2008 Author Share Posted February 24, 2008 i'm pretty new to this whole candle making thing. Eco wicks?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
debscent Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 Try adding FO at a higher temp and stir, stir, stir. Vanillas are notorious for needing higher temperature and stirring to incorporate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sara Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 El_roach_0, your two identical threads have been merged. Please only post a thread once. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pam W Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 i'm pretty new to this whole candle making thing. Eco wicks??there are a ton of different wicks on the market...so many that I can't name them all. Some that I use are flat braid, square braid, HTP, Eco, LXs & cotton cores. Search for posts that talk about your type of wax and see what others are using, then go to some supplier's websites and read up on their description/properties. Example: I like the cotton cores cause they have very little curl, I use Eco sometimes cause they give a better throw with some FOs but have more curl, etc, etc. http://www.peakcandle.com/category/Wicks.aspxhttp://www.candlewic.com/candle-wicks/pop-spools.asphttp://www.rusticescentuals.com/wickchart.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SatinDucky Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 That particular scent may not throw real strong... have you tried any others? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el_roach_0 Posted February 29, 2008 Author Share Posted February 29, 2008 actually, yes. every scent that i've used doesn't get a HT. the fruit slices scent i used had a great CT, but no HT. would trying a different wick work? i think i'm doing everything else right... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artcwolf Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 I'd try and LX wick, pick up a sample pack, and try wicking up.What does the melt pool look like? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el_roach_0 Posted February 29, 2008 Author Share Posted February 29, 2008 the melt pool is great. if i put my nose right up to the candle i can smell the scent. there is just no throw at all! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asbufra Posted March 1, 2008 Share Posted March 1, 2008 You should try other fragrances,The fragrance throw comes from the surface of the molten pool. A pillar candle is not the best way because the pool has to be kept small or the pillar will gutter and melt down into a pile of wax.A poured candle into a glass container with the correct wick is the best way to check fragrance throw. A lot of petrolatum may help but it can not be used at a high level in a pillar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pam W Posted March 1, 2008 Share Posted March 1, 2008 You should try other fragrances,The fragrance throw comes from the surface of the molten pool. A pillar candle is not the best way because the pool has to be kept small or the pillar will gutter and melt down into a pile of wax.A poured candle into a glass container with the correct wick is the best way to check fragrance throw. A lot of petrolatum may help but it can not be used at a high level in a pillar.If a pillar is properly wicked with a quality FO, it can have a great throw and not blowout. El_Roach_O did ask for help wicking a pillar.ERO: do you have another FO that you can try? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stella1952 Posted March 1, 2008 Share Posted March 1, 2008 French vanilla is one of the lighter vanilla fragrances, IMO. This is where sampling a variety of scents from a variety of suppliers can help a lot. One supplier's French Vanilla may be quite light while another's version of it might fill a mansion!I get the same great throw from pillars as I do from containers. A 3" melt pool is a 3" melt pool. If the candle isn't wicked properly, then the FO used won't really matter 'cause the wicking isn't right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el_roach_0 Posted March 1, 2008 Author Share Posted March 1, 2008 yes, i've tried a few different FOs & they all do the same thing, no HT, but a great CT. they burn nice, have a good melt pool, etc, but just no throw! should i try different wicks for the pillars then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pam W Posted March 1, 2008 Share Posted March 1, 2008 Trying some different wicks would be the next step in your testing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el_roach_0 Posted March 1, 2008 Author Share Posted March 1, 2008 okay. thanks sooo much! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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