silverm00n Posted June 14, 2007 Share Posted June 14, 2007 I'm a little confused between clear crystals and gloss poly (c-15). They are not the same right? Are clear crystals the same as aroma beads for car freshners? I have c-15 and aroma beads but if they're not the same, then I need some clear crystals! Where would I find some? ~TY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topofmurrayhill Posted June 14, 2007 Share Posted June 14, 2007 All of those are different.Clear Crystals are fischer-tropsch wax (Vestowax or Paraflint).C-15 is polyethylene (Epolene C-15).So-called "aroma beads" are EVA copolymer (Elvax 210).All are traditional wax additives that increase hardness and fragrance retention. The Clear Crystals do it without adding as much opacity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SatinDucky Posted June 15, 2007 Share Posted June 15, 2007 Wow... I didn't know the aroma beads were actually an additive for wax! Learn something new every day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topofmurrayhill Posted June 15, 2007 Share Posted June 15, 2007 Wow... I didn't know the aroma beads were actually an additive for wax! Learn something new every day It's been used as a candle additive for several decades, but as far as BCN is concerned you're not supposed to know that. The info was removed when I mentioned it on their message board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topofmurrayhill Posted June 15, 2007 Share Posted June 15, 2007 Where would I find some?Oops I forgot to mention you can get Clear Crystals from Candlechem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Henryk Posted June 15, 2007 Share Posted June 15, 2007 Hi Top,Are you sure there aren't different types? I'm positive I got my clear crystals, which I'm looking at right now, from candlechem last summer (I keep emails of orders so I can know what I got from where) and they look different from the aroma beads I got from BCN a good while ago. The Aroma Beads are MUCH smaller, rounder, while the clear crystals are much larger, irregular-sized, and flattened.Maybe they changed suppliers since then or they were manufactured differently? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverm00n Posted June 15, 2007 Author Share Posted June 15, 2007 Henryk,He's saying that they are different. BCN didn't say it was a candle additive on their board and when Top pointed that out, BCN got rid of his post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topofmurrayhill Posted June 15, 2007 Share Posted June 15, 2007 Henry, sorry if I confused matters. See my initial post above. The aroma beads and Clear Crystals are two different additives.Clear Crystals are Vestowax according to Candlechem. Presumably that means Translucent Crystals would be Paraflint. Both are synthetic waxes made by the Fischer-Tropsch process and somewhat similar products. They look a little like white rice or orzo.Aroma beads are Elvax 210, a form of ethyl-vinyl acetate copolymer. They're kind of rounded and translucent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallyswaxworld77 Posted June 15, 2007 Share Posted June 15, 2007 Henry, sorry if I confused matters. See my initial post above. The aroma beads and Clear Crystals are two different additives.Clear Crystals are Vestowax according to Candlechem. Presumably that means Translucent Crystals would be Paraflint. Both are synthetic waxes made by the Fischer-Tropsch process and somewhat similar products. They look a little like white rice or orzo.Aroma beads are Elvax 210, a form of ethyl-vinyl acetate copolymer. They're kind of rounded and translucent.Question: What are Luster Crystals that Pourette used to carry?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topofmurrayhill Posted June 15, 2007 Share Posted June 15, 2007 Question: What are Luster Crystals that Pourette used to carry??Luster Crystals are polyethylene. There is Epolene C-15 which is usually sold as Gloss Poly. The other common additive of this type is AC-6A from Honeywell, so I guess that would be Luster Crystals. You can get it from Genwax or Candlechem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henryk Posted June 16, 2007 Share Posted June 16, 2007 Wow - Sorry, I did read that completely wrong.Its easy when you have things like Luster Crystals, which actually is a white powder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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