Candle Man Posted April 27, 2007 Share Posted April 27, 2007 I have The Chemistry Store Diffuser Base and it doesent seem like there is much throw, even in a tiny bathroom.Anybody use this base or any other with good results?Do you find a wider neck/jar better for diffuser's than a narrow neck? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
debscent Posted April 27, 2007 Share Posted April 27, 2007 I don't know about that brand of base, but the scent is coming out of the reeds, not the bottle, so the neck doesn't change it that much. What type of fragrance are you using? I offer reed diffusers but my FO has to be a strong one to begin with...lemongrass, eucalyptus, coconut lime verbena, cottage breeze (yankee dupe) seem to sell very well. I use C&S' diffuser base and also Lotioncrafters IPM (I think that's what it is), and have great success. It won't throw like a tart or a candle, it's subtle scenting, not blow your doors off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crowded House Posted April 27, 2007 Share Posted April 27, 2007 You are mixing FO with the base, right? I thought Gellumination's base was pretty good at ~2:1 (base:FO), but they wouldn't tell me what was in the base when I asked so I don't know if it's straight DPG or isopropyl mystrate or what. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Fields Posted April 27, 2007 Share Posted April 27, 2007 We use the diffuser base and DPG from the Chemistry Store with equally good results. We use about a dozen FO's, and all are fine. Don't know about the jar opening diameter. We have only used one jar. Oh, even though the DPG works fine, it is a bit too thick for me. But bottom line, we are happy with the base. hth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candle Man Posted April 27, 2007 Author Share Posted April 27, 2007 I am using 40% FO to 60% Base.It will only fill up the bathroom when I flip the reeds, and then it only last for a short time of about 1 hour, untill I flip the reeds again.I wonder if all the bases are the same? I would like some more info on other bases, to see if any of these bases are any good.I started with an alcohol & FO (not drinking or rubbing alcohol) and got better results than this base. I just don't want to use the alcohol anymore because of the dangers.Maybe I will sample from some other suppliers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Fields Posted April 27, 2007 Share Posted April 27, 2007 We noticed in testing that some FO's are way too viscous and don't pull up the reeds well. For us, when the diffusers are working well, you see bubbling going on from the holes at the tops of the reeds. Are you using bamboo or rattan? The opening of the jars is 3/4". Ours last for four to five months. We test in our two home bathrooms. My wife has to turn her reeds at least once a week to have good throw (large bath). My bathroom, like my closet , is small. I have turned the reeds once in the past four months. It is very fragrant without turning them. I touch the reeds often to make sure they are damp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candle Man Posted April 27, 2007 Author Share Posted April 27, 2007 We noticed in testing that some FO's are way too viscous and don't pull up the reeds well. For us, when the diffusers are working well, you see bubbling going on from the holes at the tops of the reeds. Are you using bamboo or rattan? The opening of the jars is 3/4". Ours last for four to five months. We test in our two home bathrooms. My wife has to turn her reeds at least once a week to have good throw (large bath). My bathroom, like my closet , is small. I have turned the reeds once in the past four months. It is very fragrant without turning them. I touch the reeds often to make sure they are damp.I do use the proper rattan reeds. I have never heard or seen mine bubble, at the tips, and they do feel damp.I use 12" reeds in a 6" bottle that holds 3oz's of liquid.Is it better to use a bottle that holds more oz's, or does that matter?What %'s do you use? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Fields Posted April 27, 2007 Share Posted April 27, 2007 We use 40% base, 60% FO, also in a 6" bottle. We use 12", 3mm, rattan reeds. The bubbling stops after a couple of days. And like you we use 3oz of the mix per bottle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Fields Posted April 27, 2007 Share Posted April 27, 2007 Didn't reply to all of your post. The bottle we use only holds three oz. I don't know if the bottle can be larger or smaller. The first bottle we used worked great, so we never researched further. Oh, we have tried alcohol with the more viscous FO's. Didn't seem to work well. The throw was better, but it did not last long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
debscent Posted April 27, 2007 Share Posted April 27, 2007 Ours have lasted 6-8 months. We don't use an alcohol base due to evaporation. As mentioned not all oils will work. I have White Tea & Ginger in my foyer in my house and it scents it nicely with a 60% base 40% FO ratio. I've had it in there since September. One of my co-workers has one on her desk (reception area) and it's still going strong since November with Coconut Lime Verbena. Good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeJae Posted April 27, 2007 Share Posted April 27, 2007 I was told by the chemist at the company we buy our fragrance from not to use DPG with reed diffusers. DPG is to thick and will not allow the fragrances to get up the reeds properly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candle Man Posted April 28, 2007 Author Share Posted April 28, 2007 Thanks, Y'allI'll test more scents and see which throws better. This reed testing is more expensive and takes longer than candles.I just hate that I can't get faster repete business because the diffuser base last for months per reed diffuser. Unless they want others for different areas or a different scent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judy, USMC Posted April 28, 2007 Share Posted April 28, 2007 Candle Man - I've discovered that vanilla's/vanilla blends don't work well at all. And with the thicker oils I needed to add more base which, in turn, "weakens" the throw. So now I primarily make scent selections based on the oil viscosity and OOB intensity.I looked at Candle Science when I started. But, compared to the prices charged by a majority of the other suppliers, it seemed too good to be true.Had good success w/Bell-A-Roma. Company contact stated it's alcohol and DPG free. HTH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
debscent Posted April 28, 2007 Share Posted April 28, 2007 Thanks, Y'allI'll test more scents and see which throws better. This reed testing is more expensive and takes longer than candles.I just hate that I can't get faster repete business because the diffuser base last for months per reed diffuser. Unless they want others for different areas or a different scent.If you want repeat business then do what Pier 1 does...use an alchol base that evaporates like crazy. (I'm only kidding).As we speak I am off to package over 300 reed diffusers (yes, you can sell them). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southern.scents Posted April 29, 2007 Share Posted April 29, 2007 I dont make sell reed diffusers but every type that I've tried even my competitors did not throw well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharon in KY Posted April 29, 2007 Share Posted April 29, 2007 I never had any luck with these things. I flipped a lot but then maybe I had the wrong sticks. But the BIG question still is.... What is the base? I want to know what I'm buying cause I may already have it. Would like to be able to compare how one works against the other. As long as they keep it a secret I'm not getting anymore. What if I spill it on my hand and it eats the skin or my kid drinks some??? Remember when Cyclomethicone was just called perfume base or dry oil? It's probable water with Polysorbate or FO "Modifier" so the water and oil will mix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grama Posted April 29, 2007 Share Posted April 29, 2007 I get my base from WSP and use about 1.5 oz base and add fo to bring it to about 3.5 oz. It throws real good with the fo's I have used. Get my reeds from them also. Have an apple jack & peel made in Jan and it is still stong. Flip about every week. hth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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