rougemarie Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 Hello folks,So far I've managed to make some CP soap but due to the clamy weather in my area, I'd like to venture out to HP for faster curing time. However, I've heard that HP are very tricky so I'm seeking for advice of what kind of HP technique would be the easiest for a novice to start. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorrie Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 I tried Hp once and I really don't care for the process. To me alot messier. But all I did was take my recipe place all my oils in a crock pot heat them until melted and thenand lye/water combo. Mix and cook until trace and pour into molds. With Hp your bars may be a little rougher. I believe there is a tutorial on this. Try the archives.As for cure time, if you are looking to speed the process up than I would suggest looking at a recipe with harder oils in it and discounting the water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildangel112 Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 I do HP and love it. Of course I don't have much patience for cure time requiredwith CP:rolleyes2 . I don't mind the slightly rougher top, as a lot of my customers find it rustic and like the look. As far the rest of the bar, I took some advice I was given and bang the h**l out of my mold after pouring, which ends up giving me a smooth creamy looking bar. All in all, I'm more than happy with the HP method:yay: . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eugenia Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 I do CP and crockpot HP. There are certain FO's that I know will seize from past bad experiences. I will save them for HP. Reina, try adding a tablespoon of regular sugar per lb. of oils. Dissolve it in the water you'll use for the lye. The sugar keeps the batch more "fluid" and this makes it easier to work with. It will not make it as pourable as CP, but more workable.e Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildangel112 Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 Thanks for the tip eugenia. I'll give the sugar a try with my next batch. Will let you know how it turns out:) . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carol M Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 Just be certain to dissolve it in the water before you add the lye. If you try to put it in afterwards, the sugar won't dissolve and it will be a big mess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rougemarie Posted September 22, 2005 Author Share Posted September 22, 2005 I do HP and love it. Of course I don't have much patience for cure time requiredwith CP:rolleyes2 . I don't mind the slightly rougher top, as a lot of my customers find it rustic and like the look. As far the rest of the bar, I took some advice I was given and bang the h**l out of my mold after pouring, which ends up giving me a smooth creamy looking bar. All in all, I'm more than happy with the HP method:yay: .Reina, which HP method do you use? And how would you comment on the ease of that method? thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildangel112 Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 Here's the link to the HP method I use. http://www.candletech.com/hpsoap/ I find it incredibly easy and am so happy Shannon posted it. Can't wait to get a moments peace so I can try it with the sugar addition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasBrat Posted September 23, 2005 Share Posted September 23, 2005 I have been using the sugar in the lye water and it makes a great bar. I don't remember who said it but someone did a few weeks back. That was a great tutorial on the cphp process. I followed that but found that I didn't have to cook mine as long as the instructions showed but I sort of have learned how my croc works and what to look for. I try to buy fo's that have a high flashpoint. I have seen lots of cp soaps that have rough looking tops and sides. I put mine in a loaf pan and I bang it on the counter and then use saran on top and smoosh it down smoothly. The top comes out just a tad bit rough but the rest of the bar is very smooth.Here is a bar I made using cphp and scented with Vanilla Bean Noel. Compare it to the bar in the BB gallery titled Dark Chocolate made with the cp method. I don't think you can tell the difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsallgood20 Posted September 23, 2005 Share Posted September 23, 2005 Like Rena and TexasBrat, I do the HP too. It's not necessarily the easiest process to do but it's one that I've come to enjoy. Yes, after the cook, you have to make sure there are no air bubbles, so I tend to put it on the floor and bang it a couple times. As far as texture, I like how mine comes out...it looks creamy, the tops are a little rough, but I think that adds to the handcraftedness of it, and I can even do swirls. The tutorial is great. HTHHere's a pic for reference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rougemarie Posted September 23, 2005 Author Share Posted September 23, 2005 wow, the soaps indeed look excellent! I'll see if I can infest on a crockpot anytime soon (the one I've got is more for nachos cheese, it's so small). I also appeals to me that I can use regular loaf pan for HP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorrie Posted September 23, 2005 Share Posted September 23, 2005 I believe that you can do HP soap on the stove top too. But I think that you have to watch it carefully. ANd use a stainless steel pot! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sad72 Posted September 24, 2005 Share Posted September 24, 2005 I like to HP with a crockpot. I have to agree with the banging the mold. When I make soap, I use individual mini loaf pans, glop into the mold and then bang on the counter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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