MoonShadow Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 Hi everyone,I love the look of feathering palm, but to me it's scent throw is very weak.I use candlewic's feathering palm, 3 tb palm stearic and 6% FO. They look beautiful and come out of the molds easily. I use LX wicks and they burn nicely too. But they just don't throw much! (in comparison to soy blend containers)Am I doing something wrong or is that just the nature of Palm? (Or do I have candlenose?) I guess I should also mention the FO's I use are from Peak and NG. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
celicagtca Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 Palm is like that but some stronger fragrances work really well with the "3". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stella1952 Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 We get about the same scent throw from our palm wax as we do from soy, perhaps a little less, but not so much as you'd notice - we average 1 oz. (weighed) of fragrance oil per pound of wax. You MAY have candlenose...or not! It strikes us all at one time or another...We seldomly pour palm wax at real high temps, and we add the FO right before pouring... I think high heat diminishes some FOs... We use the palm wax from JBN and FOs from them and Peak and Wellington, so that might be a factor also. We usually use a little palm stearic and CDN wicks (from JBN). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoonShadow Posted December 3, 2006 Author Share Posted December 3, 2006 Thanks celicagtca and stella. Have any other Palm users compared scent throw in palm wax from different suppliers? I've only used candlewic's. Their website says 6% FO load. One time I did 7%, and after burning for 3 hours and then cooling and resetting, there reset burn pool had a "burnt" look. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kari357 Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 I think you are using too much stearic acid which can inhibit scent throw. I'm not sure but I think you are supposed to use 1/2 to 1 tsp. per pound of wax which should also enhance scent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcroome2005 Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 I use Candlewic's and I love it. I use CD and RRD wicks ( just depends on fo) and I have really great results with hot throws. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stella1952 Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 According to our supplier, palm stearic is spoze to enhance scent throw, and they recommended to start with 5% or 3 tablespoonfuls/pound, but we only use 1 tablespoonful/pound... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoonShadow Posted December 3, 2006 Author Share Posted December 3, 2006 I started out using less...but they wouldn't release from the molds. :undecided Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoonShadow Posted December 3, 2006 Author Share Posted December 3, 2006 dcroom...maybe I'm just not using FO's that throw like champs in candlewic Palm.Can you share which ones throw so well for you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stella1952 Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 Yeah, MoonShadow, we found out that it doesn't pay to fudge when pouring into a really "tight" mold... little whoopsies here and there... haven't had to dig one out yet, but we've broken more than one, so when we're using certain molds, we do amp up the stearic as insurance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoonShadow Posted December 3, 2006 Author Share Posted December 3, 2006 LOL...I have remelted many a palm pillar! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheilaW Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 You can also add 1-2 tsp. of Vybar 343 per lb of wax. Depending on the fo, I can use up to 1.5 oz of fo per lb. I've never had to use stearic, I read about how peeps have problems getting the palm out of molds and I have never had that problem. It has always released easily from any type mold I use. ( knock on wood )Also it seems that palm throws better the longer it cures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoonShadow Posted December 4, 2006 Author Share Posted December 4, 2006 Thanks Shiela,Unfortunately I don't have any 343, but I will get some and try it. Are you using candlewic's Palm? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheilaW Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 Thanks Shiela,Unfortunately I don't have any 343, but I will get some and try it. Are you using candlewic's Palm?Yes, I have wanted to try a few others just to compare to see if there is much difference but haven't yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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