CandleCouture Posted June 4, 2006 Share Posted June 4, 2006 Where is it that you saw them mentioned? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CandleCouture Posted June 4, 2006 Share Posted June 4, 2006 This is what is says on their website regarding their fragrance oils and their wax:Pure FragranceWe design our fragrance blends in-house using only the finest in perfume and essential oils... with no petroleum fillers or dilution oils. This gives a solid fragrance blend that is very clean and pure for your senses. Our blends are extremely intricate, often with fragrance notes 30 to over 100 deep, equal to that of a fine parfum.Pure WaxWe choose to use a 100% natural, all vegetable SOY wax, made from soybeans farmed in the USA. er'goSOY wax is so pure that it could be eaten and we have, without fragrance of course! Basically, it is a solid form of soybean oil made without any petroleum by-products or color dyes. What this means to you is a CLEAN BURNING candle with very little soot! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topofmurrayhill Posted June 4, 2006 Share Posted June 4, 2006 Like I said previously, I know they used to test CD wicks. That is of course if their pictures were accurate. They had CD written on the side in a sharpie along with various sizes.I will say I hope I am remembering the company. It was a soy based one out of the Dallas area that made it really big with the exact same packaging/containers/etc. I am 90% sure it is ergo's site that I remember seeing. Of course sometimes I cannot remember my own name, so don't bet the house on it.Yup, that was them.http://www.candletech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1854 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VerticallyEnhanced Posted June 4, 2006 Share Posted June 4, 2006 Thanks Top. Nice to know I am not going nuts. (Debatable by some, I am sure) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernGal Posted June 4, 2006 Share Posted June 4, 2006 After reading this thread, I had to look @ er'go's website. Oh my , you guys forgot to mention their has got to be 14k gold flakes in them candles . I couldn't believe a 7oz. candle cost $20.00. But I am from a little hick town and I always thought a 20 oz. Home Interior candle cost too much. :embarasse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crafty1_AJ Posted June 5, 2006 Share Posted June 5, 2006 I agree with the others that it's entirely possible to get great throw from a 100% soy/veg candle. Agreed about Blueberry Muffins and Creme Brulee -- mine have killer throw too. Also my Mango & Coconut will fill a room, and Mountain Lake and Wildberry Crisp will drive you outta the room. LOL Not all my soy fragrances are barn burners, but plenty of them are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candle Makin Momma Posted June 5, 2006 Share Posted June 5, 2006 I use straight soy and yes that's what they look like.Also as far as throwing, I only sell ones that will knock you out yor door. But I have found others that don't throw as well.So they most likely tested and only sell the ones that throw like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dallas_Texas_Dean Posted June 5, 2006 Author Share Posted June 5, 2006 I appreciate everyone's response and have learned a lot from this thread.Thank you!Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CandleCouture Posted June 5, 2006 Share Posted June 5, 2006 Of note is that they use a "food grade soy wax." So, that should, possibly, give us insight into what wax they use. I'm guessing it's a 100% soy (like the GB 415). Now, which of the 100% soys are "food grade"? Does anyone know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topofmurrayhill Posted June 5, 2006 Share Posted June 5, 2006 Of note is that they use a "food grade soy wax." So, that should, possibly, give us insight into what wax they use. I'm guessing it's a 100% soy (like the GB 415). Now, which of the 100% soys are "food grade"? Does anyone know?In the case of GB, all of them -- so this info may not narrow it down much. I'm not sure it really would help very much to know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CandleCouture Posted June 5, 2006 Share Posted June 5, 2006 Yes, but, they aren't all 100% soy. So, I would think it does narrow it down. Also, what about C3 and Eco Soya, etc? Are any of THEM 100% soy and Food grade? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topofmurrayhill Posted June 5, 2006 Share Posted June 5, 2006 I don't think I've ever seen a manufacturer claim their soy wax is edible, except in the case of GB where the 100% soy is straight shortening from their food production.Some of it might be edible but they don't say so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelaVA Posted June 5, 2006 Share Posted June 5, 2006 I don't think I've ever seen a manufacturer claim their soy wax is edible, except in the case of GB where the 100% soy is straight shortening from their food production.Some of it might be edible but they don't say so.So, who's our official soy wax taste-tester going to be? My vote's for you, Top Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topofmurrayhill Posted June 5, 2006 Share Posted June 5, 2006 So, who's our official soy wax taste-tester going to be? My vote's for you, Top Might be fun. I could write up stuff like this. http://www.thesneeze.com/mt-archives/000070.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KFTS Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 Did they switch to 415? Because I remember a thread a long time ago here that when Ergo did facility tours and there were pictures the wax was C1 by Cargill. I've also been told by a supplier who I shall not name that they knew they used C1, and they do a two-pour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CandleCouture Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 That's interesting because, from what I understand that wax is 20% stearic, 80% pure soy and they claim that their wax is edible, without the fragrance.I've also read a bit on that wax and it supposedly, isn't a good performer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topofmurrayhill Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 That's interesting because, from what I understand that wax is 20% stearic, 80% pure soy and they claim that their wax is edible, without the fragrance.You eat a form of stearic all the time as a triglyceride. It's the solid component of fat and is also created in the process of hydrogenating oils. Refining this "stearine" for candlemaking was one of the first innovations over tallow candles.Stearic as a "free fatty acid" (without the glycerin) is also added to candle blends, both vegetable and petroleum based. That's the stearic acid we buy. I suppose that should be edible too, but I wouldn't try it unless someone gave me...hmmm...at least 20 bucks.I just looked up an MSDS for stearic acid. It says:Large oral doses may cause irritation to the gastrointestinal tract. Ingestionmay cause intestinal obstruction.They don't give any hint what "large" means. Intestinal obstruction doesn't sound good. On the other hand it doesn't sound much worse than McDonalds, or at least White Castle. I think half a teaspoon for 20 bucks should be safe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CandleCouture Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 Shows how much I know about additives.Anyway, the testing information on this wax seems pretty negative, and yet according to Michael, their candles throw amazingly. Oh well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melissa1955 Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 Hey Top-CC or paypal?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelaVA Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 You eat a form of stearic all the time as a triglyceride. It's the solid component of fat and is also created in the process of hydrogenating oils. Refining this "stearine" for candlemaking was one of the first innovations over tallow candles.Stearic as a "free fatty acid" (without the glycerin) is also added to candle blends, both vegetable and petroleum based. That's the stearic acid we buy. I suppose that should be edible too, but I wouldn't try it unless someone gave me...hmmm...at least 20 bucks.I just looked up an MSDS for stearic acid. It says:Large oral doses may cause irritation to the gastrointestinal tract. Ingestionmay cause intestinal obstruction.They don't give any hint what "large" means. Intestinal obstruction doesn't sound good. On the other hand it doesn't sound much worse than McDonalds, or at least White Castle. I think half a teaspoon for 20 bucks should be safe.Oh, I've definitely got $20 for this. Deal? :highfive: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hope Posted June 8, 2006 Share Posted June 8, 2006 I'd say slurp up some olive oil, take the money... what's a couple of missing H's anyway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CandleCouture Posted June 25, 2006 Share Posted June 25, 2006 Received a free sample from Ergo of their 7.5 ounce frosted tumbler, in their highest end line. According to the sales rep, it was the line which had the highest concentration of fragrance oil. I let her choose which sample she was going to send, and, she sent me a Zoysia candle in that line. I could smell absolutely nothing, even when I placed this candle in a small bedroom.I'm guessing I got a dud, although, when given the choice, I'm not sure why a sales rep for the company would have sent this particular scent (given that it probably isn't their best throwing scent). For this price, however, ALL of their scents had better throw pretty darned well, and, at the very least I can say that the candle I received was horrendous in terms of throw, and, was horrendously over-wicked, with what looked to be an enormous HTP wick, in a relatively small tumbler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candlewitch Posted June 25, 2006 Share Posted June 25, 2006 It doesnt take much not to have a better top. Ergo should know better then to give this to it's customer. Looks like the old c-1 top to me. Sometimes when companies get too fancy, they forget that the candles have to smell. :rolleyes2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bugtussle Posted June 25, 2006 Share Posted June 25, 2006 Missed this thread when it 1st came out. Looked at the website -- there are all of those fancy boxes again. Guess we're going to have to find a good packaging vendor. I have tested a lot of C-3, it doesn't throw well! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candlewitch Posted June 25, 2006 Share Posted June 25, 2006 Not sure what Fo you are putting in the c-3 but it throws like hotcakes for me......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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