The_Dallas_Texas_Dean Posted March 2, 2006 Share Posted March 2, 2006 Well....this will be my final test before making a decision on the container wax for the Fundraising candles. I am using 4630, 70/30 and 30/70with an assortment of HTPs, CDs,ECOs and I threw in a 51P for grins.For all us newbies, this is what Phase I looks like in the testing process. :undecided...for ONE container, with ONE scent.(Maduro) They all have the same amount of FO and I am testing for Cold Throw after 48 hours. The testing sheets are very helpful that are floating around here somewhere.If anyone is interested in my results with these three waxes/wicks/oil, let me know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Girl Posted March 2, 2006 Share Posted March 2, 2006 That looks like my dining room table. I'm interested in what you find out Michael. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brat Posted March 2, 2006 Share Posted March 2, 2006 I'm interested in what you find out Michael.Me too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breanna Posted March 2, 2006 Share Posted March 2, 2006 Im interested to Michael!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dallas_Texas_Dean Posted March 2, 2006 Author Share Posted March 2, 2006 I got a PM about the tops of the tumblers. Yep, they have the adhesive covers on them:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyN Posted March 2, 2006 Share Posted March 2, 2006 I'm interested in your results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wicked1 Posted March 2, 2006 Share Posted March 2, 2006 Oh yes, please post your results... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nbkfdu4 Posted March 2, 2006 Share Posted March 2, 2006 I too am interested in the results......I went to get some 70/30 from Greenleaf last week and they were out. After trying the sample I received I wanted to do further testing. I currently use Cargill C-3. The Maduro does work well in this. Michael, when I first went over to Greenleaf I smelled the Maduro but it didn't WOW me. After hearing you talk about it and everyone else I went back and got a pound of it. I really like it! It's a great scent in wax. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pam W Posted March 2, 2006 Share Posted March 2, 2006 Michael,I'll be watching too..I had some trouble getting the Maduro to throw so I'm very interested in your testing of the various wicks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topofmurrayhill Posted March 2, 2006 Share Posted March 2, 2006 I feel that your testing procedure is flawed.Violet or lavender is a weird color for Maduro and I'm convinced this will adversely affect the results.If you were Maduro and someone colored you lavender, would you throw? No, of course not. You would hide in your humidor for shame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenleaf Posted March 2, 2006 Share Posted March 2, 2006 I feel that your testing procedure is flawed.Violet or lavender is a weird color for Maduro and I'm convinced this will adversely affect the results.If you were Maduro and someone colored you lavender, would you throw? No, of course not. You would hide in your humidor for shame.ROFL Some people may not know what "Maduro" is - it spoke to him in this color and I am sure it will be more than fine.Pam W - Please email me at brenda@greenleafcandlesupply.com with some details please. Let me see if I can assist. Most people are not getting that result with Maduro.ThanksBrenda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandgirl Posted March 2, 2006 Share Posted March 2, 2006 I don't know Top, some madurs my like being lavender or violet, it may help them come out of their humidor with pride... Maybe the Dean has a mixed bunch of Maduros!!! Ya never know....I think this will make the testing even more interesting!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenleaf Posted March 2, 2006 Share Posted March 2, 2006 I too am interested in the results......I went to get some 70/30 from Greenleaf last week and they were out. After trying the sample I received I wanted to do further testing. I currently use Cargill C-3. The Maduro does work well in this. Michael, when I first went over to Greenleaf I smelled the Maduro but it didn't WOW me. After hearing you talk about it and everyone else I went back and got a pound of it. I really like it! It's a great scent in wax.It's back in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brookstone Posted March 2, 2006 Share Posted March 2, 2006 Trying to understand your testing process better as I'm relatively new and always trying to learn so that I may be able to improve. If I understand correctly TDTD (and this may seem repetative, you are testing for cold throw. You are testing the three waxes you mentioned. You are testing a variety of wicks but that should not affect the cold throw. You have held constant the amount of FO, dye, and containers. Are you then adding the FO or pouring at different temps and that is what you are testing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michi Posted March 2, 2006 Share Posted March 2, 2006 I feel that your testing procedure is flawed.Violet or lavender is a weird color for Maduro and I'm convinced this will adversely affect the results.If you were Maduro and someone colored you lavender, would you throw? No, of course not. You would hide in your humidor for shame.You are strange one TOP!! LOL They do not even look violet/lavender to me at all, more a light wine/burgandy color.Count me in as one who does not know what a Muduro is. I'm confused Dean about the testing of new waxes for a fundraiser, I thought you already were making container candles? Maybe not? And what exactly are "adhesive covers"???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topofmurrayhill Posted March 2, 2006 Share Posted March 2, 2006 You are strange one TOP!!Count me in as one who does not know what a Muduro is. Guilty as charged.Of course I don't care what color they are, but for the curious...maduro means "ripe" in Spanish and it refers in this case to cigars that have the very dark outer tobacco leaves. The very dark brown ones have what's called a maduro wrapper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenleaf Posted March 2, 2006 Share Posted March 2, 2006 Yeppers This is a "Havana" type fragrance. We called ours Maduro instead of "type" - which I don't really like. It has many more notes than just cigar so don't let that fool you.Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geekrunner Posted March 2, 2006 Share Posted March 2, 2006 Yeppers This is a "Havana" type fragrance. We called ours Maduro instead of "type" - which I don't really like. It has many more notes than just cigar so don't let that fool you.ThanksHey Brenda, if Greenleaf makes a cherry pipe tobacco FO I'd buy a bunch! geek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candlesprite7 Posted March 3, 2006 Share Posted March 3, 2006 Maybe the Dean has a mixed bunch of Maduros!!! Ya never know....Hehehe mixed bunch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dallas_Texas_Dean Posted March 3, 2006 Author Share Posted March 3, 2006 Been busy so I just had the opportunity to revisit. TOP...WHAT THE H*** have you done to my thread LMAO:laugh2: brookstone: the FIRST test I am going to do with these is just cold throw. We all know how important the cold throw is. I wanted to know if there was a difference, side by side with the throw in these three waxes. I have also wicked them to get some testing results to compare the burn etc.Michi: Yep...I have been making containers all year, but have been off on some other escapades for my friends and personal use using many other container types. The fundraiser is once a year...so now, I have reeled myself back in and have to retest for the ones that will be sold this year using these tumblers with different waxes and FOs. Last year we had other waxes available to us in the Dallas area that are not available to us now. ( without shipping charges...ie J223 etc)The adhesive tops are just that...adhesive tops to put across the top of the tumblers. I just hole punch some holes through them and they keep the dust out and the cold throw in LOL....not sure about the rest of you, but to me, containers without some type of covering just do not hold their cold throw as well. I am sure there is some scientific explanation for this...but I am the wrong man to try and explain that ( ahem.. TOP). I will just pretend to know and say that they Oxidize http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/oxidizeAnd, OK...I am Busted....my Fundraiser is for Gay Cubans with Lung Cancer and my color choice is all about the "pride" thing. Who am I to complain...it gives me the opportunity to test liquid dye in these waxes....and when you are out of pink, whatcha gonna do? ( and the first one that pops up and says that I could use a tiny amount of red dye in the white wax is going to get B****slapped!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharyl55 Posted March 3, 2006 Share Posted March 3, 2006 I am also interested in your results. Hoping to get my sample of Greenleaf's perfect wax any day now. Had no idea Maduro was a 'ripe' Cuban cigar scent. LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenleaf Posted March 3, 2006 Share Posted March 3, 2006 Actually, Maduro only has a hint of cigar as a background note. I can smell more of the woody, musky tones than anything tobacco in this scent. It's a really nice sultry, masculine type of scent and is very popular right now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenleaf Posted March 3, 2006 Share Posted March 3, 2006 Hey Brenda,if Greenleaf makes a cherry pipe tobacco FO I'd buy a bunch! geekI can certainly bring some in for you - that's what I do. Just PM me and let me know for sure.Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pam W Posted March 3, 2006 Share Posted March 3, 2006 I am also interested in your results. Hoping to get my sample of Greenleaf's perfect wax any day now. Had no idea Maduro was a 'ripe' Cuban cigar scent. LOLSharyl,I don't smell cigar in this FO...the name may say that but the scent doesn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dallas_Texas_Dean Posted March 3, 2006 Author Share Posted March 3, 2006 Just for grins ( not that I can tell a whole lot at this point ( other than what we knew, that some of these wicks are honkers! LOL ) I thought that I would snap a pic at the 2 hour point. This is with the 4630 heated to 190, added 1.5 oz of Maduro at 185 and poured at 165. The glass was at room temp in a slightly cool room.In order left to rightCD-16HTP 83HTP 104HTP 10551-32-18 P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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