Sponiebr Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 WHOA MULE! WHOA MULE!!! WHOA!!!!!! Aw, come on, WHOA!!!!! STAHP!!!! Hammer time! So I, or the local chapter of rabid crack crazed squirrels in my head, came up with this thought: (and I quote) "Huh... That Hot Process ain't really all that hot... It's not at boiling. Boiling is 212F and that's 180F and that gets knocked down to 15o's when you add the slop... Huh... there isn't any lye active when you throw in that live cultured yogurt and honey... What if there's Strep. Therm. in there? Shouldn't you might be considering some Optiphen? There's tons of lacterbacter sugars... If they survive the heat somehow they're just gonna keep Sh*(edited)ing lactic acid... That won't be good. You need to KILL them all, and make sure they're dead. Leave no spore or bacter alive." Once they got into talking about germicide. I just got the hell out of there, it was beyond creepy... So... uh, DO I need a preservative? I don't have any doubt that the bacteria is dead from the heat, and I doubt I have any hyperthermophiles in there, but there are lot's of "bacter and fungus" snacks in that soap. I'm on the fence about it because I do this in CP and don't need a preservative. BUT on the other hand in CP the alkaline environment keeps things nice and sterile and also eats some of the free sugars. In HP, anything at the end of the cook is just there, but there is the heat and the heat can denature some of those components... Penny for your thoughts? Sponiebr wrangler of the crack-crazed, rabid, germicidal squirrel infiltration. HEY PENNY!!! Hurry up and get in here they're about to start! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shari Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Soap has a high PH so you shouldn't have to worry about it. All should be fine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallTayl Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 11 hours ago, Shari said: Soap has a high PH so you shouldn't have to worry about it. All should be fine. This. And there is still a bit of active lye at the end of the cook to saponify the additives. Within reason, of course. Adding a gallon of yogurt to a lb of soap would nullify the balance, for instance. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sponiebr Posted December 23, 2016 Author Share Posted December 23, 2016 14 hours ago, TallTayl said: This. And there is still a bit of active lye at the end of the cook to saponify the additives. Within reason, of course. Adding a gallon of yogurt to a lb of soap would nullify the balance, for instance. A gallon yogurt PPO is too much, is it? Damn.... I was going for that 128 oz PPO of honey and yogurt mixed together, y'know so I could get that really fluid pour that is so highly sought after. I'm at no more than 2 tblsp PPO on yogurt and about 3 tsp of honey. It's just too sticky and lack-lather otherwise. Thanks for the help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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