David-W Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 HiI'm looking for your thoughts and advice. I add fragrance to my wax at 185 and pour at 140. Although the fragrance oil is cooler it only causes the wax temp to drop around 6 degrees which means it can take some time to lose heat depending on the amount I'm pouring. I'm thinking of adding the fragrance at 85, cooling my pouring pitcher in cool water whilst stirring continuously until the temperature drops to around 145, taking the pitcher out of the water, allowing it to continue to cool on its own and then pouringBefore I start testing can anyone see any technical reasons as to any problems this might cause (fragrance binding to wax etc)I'm hoping that by doing it this way I can speed up the process so I'm not hanging around waiting and additionally prevent too much fragrance oil being lost whilst waiting for the wax to cool to my required pouring tempThanksDavid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest OldGlory Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 (edited) Is it a typo that you are thinking of adding the fragrance at 85 before putting the pitcher in a water bath to cool it? Are you using a soy wax - GB 464 to be precise?I have been working with GB 464 for years. I can't say if it would be ok to do this, but why don't you try it on a small scale? I would let the pitcher rest for at least 10 minutes at full temperature, having stirred the fragrance well when adding it, and I would stir it well again before putting it in the water bath.I have a hunch the pouring pot walls will build up with wax and you will not get an even cool down. Let us know how you do! Edited December 29, 2014 by OldGlory Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David-W Posted December 29, 2014 Author Share Posted December 29, 2014 Oops, well spotted. Yes I meant 185. That's a good point about the walls of the pitcher - probably the base too. I can probably regulate the amount of cooling with the water bath temperature but I was just concerned if there were any technical issues with the possibility of 'shocking' the mix (for want of a better expression). I'll give it a go and see how I get on. David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HorseScentS Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 Just stick the pitcher in the fridge or set it outside in the cold and stir frequently, that may or may not work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest OldGlory Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 The wait time bugs me too. I just find other things to do whilst waiting for the wax to get to the appropriate temperature. You develop your own rhythm after a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonshine Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 I pour at 100.... Talk about a waitI just make up 6 batches at a time and then clean- cook dinner or catch up on my shows while I wait I have tried speeding up the cooling process by refridgerator and it does not work- for me anyhow, condensation built up in the fridge and make the wax burn very wonky and it had wet spots like no other Setting the pour pots far away from eachother with a fan running has helped some but it's still a long wait- especially a 6 pound batch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgia Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 I have a metal slotted spoon that I use for stirring. When I need to speed up cooling, I stick the spoon in the freezer for a minute. It helps a lot.I would think if you used a water bath it would have to be alternating...in for a bit and stir; out for a bit and stir. That would allow for more even cooling. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HorseScentS Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 Oh, gosh, I just remembered: I met a chandler who had her own brick 'n mortar shop where she made candles behind the counter, and she demonstrated how she cooled her wax by holding two pitchers, one in each hand, and pouring the wax back and forth between the two pitchers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallTayl Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 To cool large batches of lotions a paddle type mixer does the trick. The blend is votated - gently moved, constantly, around the vessel. Not enough to introduce air, just enough to release the heat evenly. A kitchen aid type mixer with a paddle works for up to a gallon in my shop. I bet for larger batches a drill attachment on a DIY stand would make quick work of wax. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shoegal Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 Does everyone heat their GB464 to 185? I usually don't get my wax that hot. I only heat until around 135. I add my fragrance at around 100 and then pour. I know this wax is designed for hotter pours, but I just can't stand having to wait so long. It's about an hour sometimes and I get too impatient Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herrington Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 I take glass extra large measuring cups. I pour from my picture in to them. Its easier on the wrists holding that weight. It actually helped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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