We are testing in a 16 oz mason and a 8 oz. jelly. We use 1 oz fo to 1 lb of wax normally, I think i'll try to use a little less cinnamon oil. We actually have had to change our wicks for the c-3 because our htps went wild in both sizes of jars. I loved our 415 wax, we had our candles just like we wanted, but found the c-3 wax where we can pick it up instead of shipping. It saves us approximately $100 per 200 lbs, so we are trying really hard to like the c-3. Testing, especially when you have everything worked out, is the pits. Oh well, we are learning as newbies that is just how it is. Thanks.