OH Cathy

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When I made my first soys for sale I did not color them and they sold just fine, not a peep out of any customer. I have since put back color because I missed it, not because any one complained. I was suprised that no color sold as well as colored, each one had a different ivory look because of the colors of the fragrance oils.

AMISH COUNTRY CANDLE SUPPLY - no website CONNIE WILLIAMS classybaker@hotmail.com she is about 15 minutes from Lancaster, PA in Columbia, PA You can pick up at her warehouse location in Columbia.

www.conniescandles.com has some of Missy's oils I think the web site has an (M) beside the name of the fragrance if it is a Missy oil

70% 464-30% J50 the new J50. 12 oz mason. Heated to 175 cooled to 150 and poured. Great tops but always a crack at the wick, can fix with Heat Gun but Getting cracks everywhere. Top to bottom, around the sides. Any ideas? Tried pouring a little cooler, not much change. Tried cooling slower, same result. 73 degrees 60%humidity, always about the same.

Sure did not mean to confuse you. I test burn CD wicks starting with 8's all the way up to 20 but most times a CD 10 will work just fine, sometimes a 12 if the oil is heavy. This is 464 no additives. I just make a lot of testers to see what works with a lot of different wicks. I always start with 8's and make a lot of SM testers, burn them side by side to see which one I like the best.

I am trying 464 am I am having pretty good results with it. I am not having the trouble with scent leaving at half burn. I use CD's 8-12 depending on the fragrance, usually test in 8oz SM.

Try a CD 12 with an 8 oz SM.

CD's work good for me.

Is Eco Pure about the same as GB 415 or GB 464? I would like to try making a blend.

I am using a cd wick, 8 % fo, pouring at 135, curing 7 days, I get frosting, but no loss of throw. In 464.

I added 7 oz of Crisco to 3 lbs of 464, 8% fo, poured at 135 and got ugly tops, great color and no frosting. I used the heat gun and the tops are still like cottage cheese. I will let them set a few days and burn. Next day the frosting reappeared. I also added 7oz of mineral oil to 3lbs of 464, same results, ugly tops, can't smooth them out with a heat gun. I will try cutting down on the Crisco, just to cut the frosting, and forget the mineral oil. Just a last note to anyone considering this. At one week the Crisco candles started to sweat, this is not good for me. The straight 464 candles did not sweat.

I hope someone can give some imput on this. I have been testing with GB464 and I have the wicking test completed, and I am getting smooth tops, but in order not to see the frosting, I have been making them w/o dye. Has anyone added Crisco or Mineral OIl to the GB464 and noticed any change in frosting issues?, or wicking/throw/color changes? I sure do miss my colors. Hoping to hear from anyone that uses GB464 and having good results with it. I would really like to make this wax part of my line because I can pick it up w/o shipping and that is such a saving. And yes, I searched and found a couple of old threads. Thanks to all who reply...OH Cathy

Hi Dixie, I am glad that you are starting wGB464 so I have someone to compare with. I sure don't have any words of wisdom, but I do have pretty good luck w/CD12's in a SM. I don't have your wicks so I can't be of any help there. For me I have not got the color figured out yet, might not color them at all, just add UV. It seems the more color I add the frost shows up, maybe that is dye related, maybe it is there all the time and the dye makes it more visible. I get a great cold throw, and I am sad to say that some of my fragrances are not hot throwing well in this wax, but if I bump up to 8% it gets a little better. I let mine cure for 4-5 days before 1st burn. Most of the time I get smooth tops at 135-150 much higher, I get a slight dip or a hole. Good luck with your 464..OH Cathy

I like the label on the left. The black stripe pops right out. Nice job.

What section at Michael's do you find Diamond Dust? Thanks very much...OH Cathy

A candle maker told me that FC & C dyes were the best, but they ordered directly from them, I don't need large quanities, just a hobby. Do you know any suppliers that sell their dyes, supposed to be in amber glass bottles? And does anyone use them with GB464? How do they preform? Thanks for help...OH Cathy

I have sent you a pm about bears, I have lots that I don't have time to work with, if you are interested I will send some pic for you. Thanks, OH Cathy

Thank you for the advice. I have always used UV on every colored candle I make so I had a feeling I they would yellow without UV. I make all of my testers w/o color and have noticed one in the bedroom turned bright yellow around the edges with natural light, RA Coco Mango, I noticed it changing within 1 week. The more candles I make w/o color, the more I am beginning to like them, so we will see how the customer takes to them. Thanks again...OH Cathy

you do not dye the wax in the container? I am thinking about trying a few uncolored containers with a veg blend to see how they sell in my craft malls? Flourescent light is the light source. Thinking maybe I would see some yellowing if I did not use it. Thanks...OH Cathy

I have seen this. I tested a soy blend from Calumet in the summer. It was all good. Then I poured them for a fall fundraiser and sink holes were awful. I adjusted pour temp, nothing helped. The dealer said it was humidity related.

I have a shampoo base from Connies Candles, I added the thickner and fragrance, it lathers nice but I cannot get a comb through my hair and it is short. Is there something I can add to this base to make the shampoo leave my hair more combable? Thanks in advance to all who reply...Cathy