VanillaSniffie, I agree that there are alot of people on this board who think that every time you ask a question you are just trying to get a free ride off of all their hard work. I found out a long time ago to just try the Search feature because Most are not willing to help out someone who is trying to learn. I do my share of testing and am not looking for an easy way out, just advice, not exact recipes. So you really have to just overlook certain posts and just try to focus on the few on here that really are positive and helpful. Good luck to you and your candle business. Don't give up.