CandleCouture

Has anyone ever noticed a correlation between the amount of mushrooming, and the melt point of the wax? In other words, is it possible that, all other things being equal, a lower melt point wax would mushroom less (or more), than the same, higher melt point wax?

I was just cutting and pasting from the wicks unlimited website.

Anyone know of a good strong one?

These folks have some VERY interesting sounding fragrance oils (although their website could really use some work) Anyone have any great scents from these folks that I should try? Getting ready to place an order. Specifically, I use the GL 70/30 blend (70% soy)

Yes and no. You can't really say that, about a customer. You have to just know that most won't follow the directions. That's kinda the point of testing in sub optimal conditions (marathon burning for safety, despite the fact they are warned not to). It's the old philosophy of putting up a "Caution: Wet Floor" sign at a supermarket. The fact that it's up does NOT limit the supermarket's liability. They are equally liable if someone slips and falls.

Someone previously, in this thread, brought out, point by false point, on their website, how they could, theoretically, be prosecuted for the type of falsehoods they are spreading. It is important that you understand most candles are made using automated machinery, requiring the temperature to be much hotter. Why is this a problem? Pouring at such high temperatures causes a great deal of fragrance to evaporate out of the candles. More importantly, a large percentage of fragrance rises to the top of the candles leaving little scent at the bottom. If you don't see that as a falsehood, or something shameful to say, then frankly, you aren't even worth discussing this with. This is a waste of my time, and those who are able to see through this. I have no problem with a "hard sell" or stating opinions like "Ours are the finest scented soy candles in the world" because, by definition, opinions are just that, however, when you try to pass off "two wick technology" as something that only YOU are doing, and you tell people that the national brands are burning off oil because they have to use machinery (never mind that this, in and of itself, isn't true, as many national brands hand pour their candles...and I know this for a fact...even if on a larger scale), then you are lying, and putting forth falsehoods. Again, take off the blinders, and see this site for what it's worth...nothing.

Do they carry cappers? I don't see them. I only see those toppers, that are decorative. Do they carry the simple cappers/venting lids?

Here's a question. Do you know where I could find a candle capper with a more upscale look? That's the look that I'm going for with my 14 oz frosted tumblers, and, I don't know if the regular cappers would fit in with that. Also, for people who use them, doesn't it sort of inhibit scent throw? I mean, those jars throw a bit better, scent wise, because of their wider opening and larger melt pool but, isn't that negated with the capper, where the openings at the top are MUCH smaller, thereby inhibiting the amount of fragrance released into the air?

Some people just don't get the picture, so, I'm not going to argue this point any further.

Yeah, that's what I mean. I meant with the double wicks that were drowning. Possibly wick down slightly...After all, a full melt pool after 2.5 hours, on a 4" diameter jar, is slightly less than ideal (although not much). I think a full melt pool after 3 or 3.25 hours, is pretty acceptable, and, the two smaller wicks might not rob each other of as much oxygen? Not sure if this will work but, it might be worth a shot?

Question. Have you tried wicking DOWN from the double wick sizes that produce a FMP in 2.5 hours, to maybe something that produces it in 3 hours? I only ask cause, from what I understand, wick drowning is from wicks stealing each other's oxygen. If they were smaller wicks, I would think they would require slightly less oxygen? Just a thought.

Although I did notice that they don't have all the sizes...Oh well. I think that Wicks Unlimited will also pretab and prime them, of course they require a 10,000 piece minimum.

Top, are you referring to the plain square braid from ATkins and Pierce? If so, Candlewic sells them pretabbed and primed, for you.

Chris, what did you mean here? You mentioned that square and flat braids are bigger, however the ones that I referenced ARE square and flat braided. What did you mean? Which wicks do you know, other than Citronella wicks, which are bigger?

Hmmm....That's tricky. I posted another thread on the largest wicks available to try to get at this issue. I just ordered some sample Atkins and Pearce Square Braided Wicks. Those seem to be enormous. They might work...Not sure. As for selling the capper as an integral part...Not really sure. you know some people will heed the advice, and some won't. And, of the ones that don't heed the advice, there will be some that are upset about the hangup, and some that aren't. It's not a bad idea, though. Would be curious to hear what everyone else thinks. What is the largest wick that you have tested? And, are you having drowning issues, when you double wick, regardless of wick type? Or, are you only having that problem with LX's?

No matter what anyone says, you just aren't going to see the point. It's not about blown up advertising. It's not about her saying that her candles is the finest candle ever made (which is a matter of opinion, even if it is not really true). It's about outright falsehoods, like stating that "the big candle companies use wrong sized wicks" and that "the pour at extremely low temperature because otherwise it burns off fo." I'm getting the feeling that you are probably somehow involved with the website, which might explain why you aren't quite understanding what I'm saying, or what most others in this thread are stating.

For the record, and to be prosecuted, you don't have to "prove" that she's lying about anything. The burden of proof is often on the advertiser to "proove" that those outlandish statements are true, and, many in this case, aren't. Funny how some people walk around each day with blinders on. I can't understand how these people are even able to see the sun rise or set.

Is there a large wick available, that is slightly less "flame thrower-esque"? I'm really trying to get my 3.25" container single wicked and am having trouble. I know it's not a huge container, but, with certain oils, some of the larger wicks aren't even working.

That doesn't refer to whether they come primed and pre tabbed or not. The LX wick is a uniquely braided, coreless, flat wick manufactured with stabilizing threads that ensure an optimum burn profile. This allows for a very stable and consistent flame, which minimizes, or eliminates, carbon buildup (mushrooming) while reducing afterglow, smoke and soot. Formerly known as CD and CDN wicks respectively, the Stabilo and Stabilo KST wicks are coreless, non-directional, flat braided wicks with a special paper filament woven around them. The HTP wick is flat braided in design, but with thin paper fibers intertwined. The result is a cleaner burning, self-trimming wick with additional structural strength, controlled curling and a hotter, more efficient flame.

By the way, all the ones that I mentioned are in fact, braided, so I'm confused as to what you meant.

Ok, then which ARE the biggest wicks, in terms of their melt pool or how wide a jar it can wick?

From what I understand, the CD-22, LX-30, and HTP 1312 are the largest wicks available? How would everyone rank them?

What commercial are you referring to which spouts of downright falsehoods? I don't know of any. I find it humorous that those who find nothing wrong with it, have yet to point out anything comparable, in mainstream advertising, other than "Choosy moms choose jif" which doesn't even come CLOSE to comparing. Again, rather than stating..."that's what everyone does..." give an example...You will see that they don't exist as readily as you think they might.

They aren't exagerated, they are false and deceitful. There's a big difference. Fragrance oil does NOT burn off if you don't pour at extremely LOW temperatures, for example.

I don't think anybody is equating this with the bombing of the twin towers, however, considering this is a candle board, and those are deceptive candle marketing practices, it may have struck a chord. That's all. I don't think anyone is overstating the importance of this, in the grand scheme of things. However, the fact remains, they are being deceptive. If they had to explain these statements of fact to an experienced chandler, they could not, and I think they know it.