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Thanks Old Glory. I think I may have an old sample of that. I will go look and if I find it I will see if it still smells ok. Backwoods smells great!

Just wanted to let everyone know that Backwood's Lemon Tart has an outstanding scent throw in wax melts (parasoy - more paraffin than soy). I have not burned a lot of different lemons to compare the scent for the way it smells, but it smells good to me. It smells very close to Lemongrass from JBN (now owned by another store) but of course minus the grass, which was not a real strong note in JBN's lemongrass. I always loved JBN's Lemongrass...it was real strong too.

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Thanks, Buddy! I have wanted to try Elements for awhile....just never got around to it. I will check it out the lemon when I place a sample order. I have been on their site several times looking the fragrances over. Any other suggestios there? I have searched on here and got a few ideas. Thanks again!

I am about to test Backwoods lemon tart in a parasoy wax melt. In the description it does not indicate any crust, etc. and to my nose I do not smell any either. I have read good things about this this oil. I am looking for a good straight lemon as a mixer....i.e. Lemon Buttercream. What is your favorite straight lemon that would be good used as a mixer for bakery type fragrances or others...i.e. Lemon Lavender? I will let you know how this one goes. Thanks!

Yes, with the 5 inch + container triple wicking with the 4630 is possible. How long can you burn it before the meltpool gets too deep? Are they the Cylinder jars? I bet the throw is great with the triple wicks and even the double wicks.

It could the type of glass then that may be causing it to leave more slime. Not totally sure. You would think though that since the Ball jar is narrower it would help counteract the type of glass...thicker vs. thin or a different texture.

Is the glass of the Libbey jar thinner? If it is, they may get hotter than the Ball jar glass which would help with that slime. Some wax will leave more slime than others and the 4627 is one of them. The Clarus 70/30 can as well, especially since it has soy in it. Sometimes, if everything else is going great, you gotta let go of some of the imperfections that is almost impossible to fix.

For some reason I never really experienced that kicker hot throw with the 4627, But then again, I did not test it real long. I did not really like the consistency of it. I could handle the mess but prefer wax that is a little firmer in the candle. That was funny when you said......"I want all of it". Have you compared the two in throw in general....in a single wicked candle? I remembering thinking that the 4630 had a better throw for some reason. I think the 4630 double wicked would have a better scent throw than the 4627 single wicked. I will say though, I prefer the slower meltpool time with the 4627 when double wicked. But, if the jar is too tall the flames will get weak. For me the 4630 always got too deep of a meltpool way too quick whe I double wicked it in the 10 oz. apothecary, but if you try it in the open cylinder jar, it should work ok double wicked. Triple wicked would be overkill with that wax...would get too deep too quick.

I agree, the 4627 seemed harder to wick to me as well. I thought the throw was better with the 4630.

I have the same problem with the blends or parasoy in necked jars. I could double wick great in the necked jars with the soy I used. That is why I am now testing the cylnder jar with the 70/30 wax. I could not double wick that wax in the 16 oz or taller apothecaries. The wicks would drown as well. I do not want to go back to pure soy....too time-consuming.

P.S. I think the two that should most likely do well in the one wicked candle would be Botanical Orchard and Nectar and Artic Air. I will look again. Possibly White Tea and Ginger as well and Berry Creme Brulee. There are several oils on your list that I have not tested so others will most likely be able to give you more suggestions off your list.

Hi Lauren, I would have to look at the Eco 6's and I can't recall the wicking on the J-50 since it has been so long for me with that wax. But, I think the Eco 6 sounds a little small. I would have to check on it and since it has been a while since I tested the J-50 and since I was double wicking with zincs at that time, I am not the best to tell you on that. I will say though, that when I used another wax in the status jar I used a bigger wick than that....even up to a HTP 104 for some fragrances....I used 9% oil though. Maybe the wick is some of your problem it if it too small. How was the flame? Did you let it burn for awhile before determining scent strength? On the oils, there may be others on here that will know what throws well in the J-50. It has been awhile for me with that wax. But from looking at your list, I would say that Peaks Bontanical Orchard & Nectar should do well. I get a great throw with that one in the Clarus 70/30. However, it is a double wicked candle that I have been testing. I also got a great throw with that scent in the pure soy candles I offered....double wicked. I think it would be one of the better oils to try for scent throw. Another one would be Millcreeks's Cinnamon Vanilla since it is getting close to fall. I got a good throw with that one in my pure soy, especially since it is a vanilla. I also got a good scent throw in a little tealight made with the 70/30. I don't use Lonestar. I have tested some oils from there way back but can't remember much on them. Here are the other ones that I think may work for you that did well for me in soy and parasoys: Peaks Birthday Cake - I think this would be best in a double wicked candle CS's Pumpkin Souffle....never purchased this but tested it and I believe it did well in a wicked candle Peaks Banana Nut Bread MC's Artic Air....I have not tested this in a candle but it is killer strong in a tart. I just know this would probably do well in most wax and in a wicked candle MC's Berry Creme Brulee I do not currently use Nature's Garden but am thinking about adding them. I have tested and used some fragrances from them a long time ago. I have not used the ones you listed but heard great things about the Frosted Lime Cupcakes in tarts. Not sure if I would try that one first in a wicked candle. Red Velet Cake from other suppliers are never strong enough for me in candles. I think I have tried at least two. I know many have great results with Amish Quilt but it was not strong enough for me in wicked candles, but that was determined in a pure soy candle. It may not be the best to start off with. Also, Sugar Cookies can be light, especially in one wicked candles. I use Peaks. White Tea and Ginger may do well. Depends on the wax. I had some good results in a one wicked candle. Love Peaks Pink Sugar, but have not tested it in a wicked candle. I would think it may be one that could be on the lighter side in a one wicked candle. That will give you some suggestions to start with.

Yes, I agree, if you double wick them, the throw will be good! My findings were based on a one wick Status jar vs. a one wicked necked jar or smaller jar or a double wicked jar. I also agree on the neck and sooting. I prefer straight sided jars in some ways. However, the soy I used in the apothecaries was very clean burning so it was not a big issue. I am working on a double wicked Libbey Cylinder bowl. I like them because they are straight sided. I am finding though that it has a better scent throw with triple wicks than double wicked whereas the necked apothecary does great with just two wicks and I would NEVER triple a wick an apothecary because of the depth and neck.....would get WAY too hot.

I used double wicked apothecaries and Madisons as well and my findings are the same as yours. I believe I found that the Madisons have a slightly better hot throw than the status jars but I worked longer on the Madisons so had more time to find the right oils. I think the Madisons are a tad narrower.

P.S. She was testing different wax to find the ones that she likes the best. She has not yet chosen the one that she wants to focus on as far as I know. Once she finds a was that seems to produce the best hot throw and burns the best for her, she can then start focusing on fragrances that throw well in it. However, it is good to know the jar you want to use because some wax will not do as well in some jars as others....just depends on the application. There are several waxes that tend to do well in just about any jar but there are also some waxes that do not.....like the soy I used...did not do well in single wicked jars.

Exactly! That is what I was saying above regarding straight sided jars vs. necked/lipped jars or even smaller straight sided jars. I also agree and said the same thing about how the throw will get better fruther down the jar. It is frustrating having to wait though. The jars are beautiful, but for me in a large area it does not pass for scent throw for me. There are some scents out there that would do better for scent throw in those jars, but finding them takes a lot more time. I have tested many jars and this is definitely my finding. I have burned many jars from other companies and this is also my findings.

Good morning! I have used Zincs for various paraffin candles at one time and even though they have said they burn cooler, I never had any trouble producing a great meltpool. In one way it is great that they do not bend but then on the other side of the coin, standing straight up with a mushroom can be a little noticeable. Over the years I have learned to embrace some things with certain applications. If I didn't I would never sell anything. lol I tend to be a perfectionist but some things we can't always fix. I think we are are much more critical of our own candles vs. those we buy, unless the ones that we buy will not stay lit or has a healthy flame but smokes like a chimney. This drives me nuts, especially flames that get weak. Regarding the LX wick. It looks like a white flat cotton wick but is braided. The braiding is less noticeable than the HTP's, Eco's or CD's since it is a white wick. They look completely different than the HTP's. I definitely like them for certain applications. I am like you, I tend to prefer the HTP's over the Eco's and over the CD's as well. I have used CD's in the Madison jars. I can't remember why they ended up doing the best in those jars but that is what I ended up going with. For smaller jars, LX's and Htp's seem to do the best for me. Regarding adding paraffin to your soy. I tried adding paraffin to my soy back in the day in order to relieve frosting and 4627 was one of the ones I tried out of several. It decreased the scent throw for me too. I have mixed several waxes together and find this to be a very common outcome. Keep us posted!

Not saying you cannot get a good candle in this jar. I just find that it is much harder to get a great throwing candle for larger areas. This is my nose. It depends on the combinations of wax and fragrance oils and of course wicking. I also find it takes a lot more work finding oils that will have a kicker throw in them for larger areas. I have bought several candles in status jars and the ones I have gotten do not pass for my nose is large areas. They are best in smaller areas. I am comparing the throw to well scented double wicked candles or smaller jars that seem to produce a better hot throw. I am sure that if Lauren settled on a wax and started to diligently hunt for strong throwing oils for her wax in that jar, she would eventually produce a decent throwing candle. It depends on the candle maker....what they want to deal with and everyone's nose is different. I sold this jar in a limited addition. I only finalized one scent out of several that I tried, and it was a very strong scent, so it did fine in that jar. P.S. I also find that it takes longer for the scent throw to get going just like in any single wicked candle, but since it is wider than some and has an open top with no neck, I find that it takes even a little longer in these types of jars. I also find that at the beginning of the jar, the throw takes longer than when it gets further down. These are just my findings. I had a spa line in the Madison jars which are very similar but just a tad narrower. I found that they did best in smaller areas and since it was a spa line with fragrances that were best for those types of areas it worked out well. I just had to hunt around longer for great scent throwing fragrances. I found some which did pretty well in the larger areas....just takes a little longer during the burn to get strong.

Those that you made this weekend look great too! Do you offer them in other scents as well? I have never made whipped wax. Is it more inclined to melt? I guess it would since there is air in it?

Meant to say that you may need a LX 14 or 16, depending of course (as you already know) on the wax and oil and how much oil and the fact that it is an open jar and not deep.

You are welcome! P.S. Since the jar is the short open one, I am not sure if the LX will get the meltpool out to the sides as easy as the HTP. I would give it a try though. I cannot recall if the HTP is supposed to burn hotter than the LX or not. On another note, I know that Zinc's do tend to mushroom and do not look as nice after a burn but it may work well getting the meltpool out to the sides, especially since it is not a wick that bends. Although, I do remember reading that zinc's burn cooler but not sure if I am remembering right.

That is great that you got it to work out. I did briefly test palm in the Status jars. I think it is a beautiful jar for that kind of wax....shows the wax well. I ended up getting burned out and stopped the testing. I still have plenty of wax. Someday, I would like to give it another try. I still have some status jars. If I remember correctly, I found that the flame would grow too big.........more so than what it would in other wax. I can't remember now which wicks i tested but I know I did test the wicks that CS sells for Palm wax. Which Palm wax do you have? I tested Glass Glow and the Palm Wax from Swan's candle supplies. I do remember having to allow the candle to tunnel a bit on the first few burn and then it plays catch up. I remember thinking that I would hope that people would burn it long enough for each burn because if they did not it may never catch up.

Regarding the throw comparison with the HTP and LX, it is hard to say, because when I settled on either wick for whatever application, the throw passed. I hope that makes sense. I never used the HTP's in the Roly Polies, but the LX's gave a great scent throw when wicked correctly. I have not compared the LX's and the HTP's in the Oval Hexagon jars yet....just started testing these. I can't remember if there was a difference between the throw in the small hurricane jars between the LX and HTP. It has been awhile. I like both wicks depending on the application. Since I keep my candles colorless, the LX's are prettier in the colorless wax, especially in a more delicate looking jar (Roly Poly)....low profile wicks. Hope that helps!

Regarding double wicking, I never really thought about it that way....dividing it in half. It has been so long since I first started to test I forget where I got my base. It depends on the wax really and oil so even if you divide it in half it all comes down to the type of wax, etc. However, the wicks used is usually smaller than if that same jar is wicked with one wick. When double wicking the pure soy (Calsoy CB-3) in the 10 oz. apothecary jars, most of the oils did well with two RRD 40's. In the 16 oz. jars the RRD's 47's were most common. I used 9% oil. I also used Hemp wicks with some oils. Soys can be different though just like other blends and some soys would take smaller wicks or maybe even larger wicks. I will say, I have NEVER been successful in double wicking the tall apothecaries (16 oz. or larger) in any of the paraffin blends or parasoys. I would get weak flames halfway down in the jar no matter what wick I would put in there. I had much better luck with soy wax for double wicking in taller jars, especially the CB-3 (Calsoy). Now I know why Gold Canyon candles usually get weak flames in their taller apothecaries. It is nuts! Not sure how they keep selling them.