Hello All, After all the problems I have had with Joy wax, I tried plain soy 120. I was surprised at the amount of frosting I got, but I think I will try the heat gun on the tops. It is very smooth and creamy otherwise. I burned some tealights and it burns well. I also tried the Premier wicks for the first time. I usually use HTP. When I test, I will post results. The cold throw is good, hope the hot throw will be too. Ruby