Thank you both. by the way I hear that PriarieAnn is the soap goddess of mp. lol i have read a lot of your post so i should but plain mp soap an add my oils to them. how much should i add pp. i want a pretty bar an i love the idea of using herbs in them. one more question how much should i sell my bars for and what size bars sell the best. well maybe that was 2 questions. lol i love making soap i stay up for hours and my spouse said he was going to have to get involved or he was going to loose me.....lol God Bless Jamie