13 hours ago, TallTayl said:

I was reluctant about soap since I could not obtain IFRA Certs reliably at the time I bought mine. Plus, quite a few when I was researching and purchasing were not designated for soap. Do those survive and behave in a high pH environment?

I wish I could answer your question about pH. The companies that sell them should know that, and I can tell you that the customer service at PA , as well as The Perfumer's Supply House, in particular, has exceeded my expectations. 

These are perfuming materials, and some, if not all of those, are used in food production. So, yes, they are meant for the skin. I consult the MSDS for each to learn the skin safety limits and any restrictions.  This is the best resource to me. I use it before I purchase any material. The search tool is very quick and convenient, and there's nothing you can't find: 

http://www.thegoodscentscompany.com/

Quick note: sometimes it is actually noted that a material works well in candles and or soaps.

I wonder why that is. I received a sample of Perfumer's Apprentice's coconut, but haven't tested it yet. I'd have to make one wax melt of one soap with it, but, hey, it might be the best one ever! Guess I know what I'm doing to day. I have an obligation to aid in the search for a good coconut.

Before I say anything else, these aromas are very strong. Do not open it and smell them OOB! Dilute them first!

Dimethyl-2,3 Pyrazine- If you need something that smells like nuts, as in real, roasted hazelnuts, Frangelico- that sort of thing, try this. It is extremely powerful. Dilute it to something like 3% first, then use a paper tester.  You need so little it's unbelievable, so it is certainly cost-effective, not to mention authentic-smelling. I can see mixing this with coffee, baked goods, cherry, chocolate, and coconut, for sure.

Maltol 50- It smells like caramel and cotton candy and is absolutely a foodie scent and perfect for dessert and baked goods scents. It is also extremely powerful. 

Methyl-5 Furfural- Almonds, Amaretto. If you wanted to do a Cherry Almond, this would be superb, especially with a little vanilla. I can also see this is coffee and chocolate blends. 

Coumarex DB- This is a very nice vanilla  with some hay or straw notes. It could be foodie or not foodie. It is not all up in your grill screaming "VANILLAAAAAAA!" but rather has a natural, smooth nature that would be lovely with coconut, caramel ,or non-food earthy scents.

Gamma Octalactone- Coconut, peach, and apricot. Very creamy. You can smell the creamy richness. Aren't chemicals fascinating? I'm not sure I'd use this in a candle, but in soap? Absolutely!

If you're interested, I'll share some more as they come my way.

1 hour ago, birdcharm said:

I've been working with fragrance oils for over twenty years and I've never once found any need to "inhale" any of it --- sniff, yes; inhale, as in taking a deep breath of it, no. 

 

"I had no clue about these terrible warnings and I was alarmed ..."   Please!  Any perfume or fragrance should be used with care, just as so many other things ... the Material Safety Data Sheet is intended to cover any possible dangers that a product can pose.  In terms of concentrated fragrance oils, of course they are not intended for inhaling!  

 

 

 

4 hours ago, Incendia said:

I love the fact that even though she is terrified by what she purchased, she said she might resell them... 

 

She also should never read the warning labels on any sort of medication she is considering taking. 

 

Not just cocaine and other toxic natural substances, but as a doc friend says, the plague was natural, as is botulism and viruses. For that matter, so are lions and tigers and bears. (Is nature trying to kill us?) 

 

Accurate information is a good thing, IMO the more the better...  but not everyone has good reading comprehension.  I also like to know the opinions of people I trust. Life can be dangerous, but weigh your risks, and make your best possible decision. Or live in a seamless bubble and not experience much of the richness life has to offer.

 

 

Yesssssss. All of this.

In case anyone's still following this thread I just came across this review of a FO. This is a perfect example of someone who just had no idea what she was working with. It was a review for a chocolate fragrance oil:

"I am afraid.

9 hours ago, Moonstar said:

whats the christmas candy like, is it basically peppermint or a sweet candy . I believe their goat milk m+p is SFIC brand ???? Ive read the sugar plum fairy is nice too.

They have SFIC, as well as their own blend. I like the SFIC ingredients better. That's exactly the product I was considering.

Thanks for these suggestions! I bought from them maybe 5 or 6 years ago when I first became interested in soaping, and then I took a long hiatus. When I decided to start back up, I really researched this time to find better FOs and keep costs down, so I looked everywhere else. Only when I got a coupon did I decide to look at them again since shipping is so high. I do have a few of theirs that are good and some that weren't. Their anjou pear, smokey patchouli, kiwi cucumber and cucumber melon were good; the coconut and vanilla were NOT. I guess the coconut totally forgot to show up for work that day because it certainly wasn't in the bottle. The vanilla was just another vanilla impostor who wasn't good at her job.

On 1/5/2016 at 11:03 AM, soshiegirl said:

The only watermelon I will use is from Genwax (think they're now candlemakingsupplies.net).  It's the most authentic smelling watermelon I've tried and I've tried quite a few until I found this one.  Their juicy bits of orange is also perfection.

Their prices are so reasonable. Do you use their FOs regularly? 

Just wondering if they had any materials, including FOs, that you're crazy about. 

This is an offshoot, but I am an addict- I keep reading about vendors I haven't heard of before and I'm thinking- What else do I not know about??!! 

I see all the same FO vendors and then someone say "watermelon from Genwax" and I go all crazy wondering what else is out there. 

If anyone would like to share favorite scents from specific vendors in a post, that would be awesome. I know there's a list, but they may not all be of the same caliber, and how can we know what's crap and what's not? 

Sorry to interrupt.

1 hour ago, Moonstar said:

shhhh we won't tell anyone as long as you share some with me lol ! 

I'll pass on the Wellness version, but you go all ahead and enjoy. I'll be over here eating something delicious.

18 minutes ago, Moonstar said:

yes, bit I purchased mine from wholesale supplies plus - but theirs is not the SFIC brand . What state are you in - BB is way too far for me to order from

Im out east /mid west and shipping would be a killer . Peak carries that brand as well . I buy the detergent free from WSP 

I'm in Massachusetts. Seems like nothing really local to me.

21 hours ago, Moonstar said:

The Goats milk and the honey one is pretty good from WSP. I also like the coconut one - the clear -and oatmeal . Glasllyn I always choose the detergent free 

from WSP. I don't know why but Im so nervous to try CP . I find that Im my own worst enemy at times. Maybe I'm afraid of failing IDK ??? I really want to 

try Candybees recipe - it sounds awesome ( Goat milk oats + honey soap ) I should just go for it ! lol ! 

I'm looking at these soaps. Are these what you're referring to?

https://www.brambleberry.com/SFIC-Shea-Melt-And-Pour-Soap-Base-P3192.aspx

https://www.brambleberry.com/SFIC-Soap-C647.aspx

32 minutes ago, Incendia said:

 

Guess I'm living on borrowed time...  So.... Where's that chocolate cake?

 

Or did Wellnessmama condemn that too?

Well is it vegan cake made only with free-trade chocolate, organic sprouted spelt flour, dried black beans that were soaked overnight in rain water (no toxic cans, please!), hand-pressed almond oil and carbon-free soy milk, then air-dried so as not to cook out any nutrients or incorporate toxins from bakeware? If so, it might be ok. Oh, but the sugar. Nevermind.

Check your email if you're a BB customer. I'm not sure if it's alright to share the code. It says I'm being sent the email because of my "shopping activity." Not sure what that means, but I want to stay honest. If I'm allowed to pass it on, I will!

Wellnessmama would tell you you're going to die within five minutes of burning five candles. 

1 hour ago, Incendia said:

 

That said, last night I was burning 5 candles, and for several hours. 

 

 How are you even alive?

2 hours ago, Candybee said:

Sorry... I was trying to be facetious. I know that we are a carbon based planet.

 

I guess I just don't get what they are trying to do.... make carbon look bad? make us afraid of it? ourselves? our planet? Holy cow I should be afraid of carbon now?

I was being sarcastic! It may be hard to tell tone here, but I was making fun of the ridiculous claim. I'm quite sure you understand carbon.

Here's why: today's chemical order alone

Here's my new pal Airmega 400:

My new pal

Thank you!!!

M&P beer

Just now, Candybee said:

What do they mean carbon free? Free from carbon dioxide? Isn't carbon a footprint of living organisms like say..... the plants that grow in the soil like say..... sugar cane? Sorry I am no chemist.

It's called "Bullsh*t," Candybee. Everything is carbon. There would be nothing without it. 

I'm very attracted to a few things about CP:  primarily the cost and nourishment/ hydration options. I have really dry skin, so oils are my BFFs. I'd be beef jerky without them. 

Sooooooooo...if one were to try a very simple test project without buying 345834730496 pounds of stuff, what would you recommend?