Butter Rum Cappuccino RE Oil Hot Throw?

[GoldieMN]

Have you had luck getting a good hot throw with this oil from Rustic Escentuals?  It smells so good cold, but loses it when lit.  I'm using pint jars, 415, and tried 765 & 767 Premier wicks.  I tried 1% and 1.3% oil.  I did ask RE, but they haven't tested it.

Goldie

 

 

[lmc]

1%? Most start at 6% and may go up to 8% depending on the oil. You won't get ht using much less than 6% in soy.

Edited May 12, 2015 by lmc

[GoldieMN]

1%? Most start at 6% and may go up to 8% depending on the oil. You won't get ht using much less than 6% in soy.

Sorry, I meant 1 ounce.  Used 16 ounces  wax and 1 ounce oil.  Then 16 ounces and 1.3 ounces.

[Guest OldGlory]

How are the Premiers doing in that jar? Have you test burned one all the way down? That seems small to me.

[lmc]

I checked my old notes... for a pint size (16 oz mason) I used a Premier 790 and a 793 for heavier fo's, try wicking up.

Are you curing the candles for at least a week before testing? That can make a big difference in ht. It may just be that particular fo doesn't throw well in soy, but imo, I'd try wicking up.

[GoldieMN]

How are the Premiers doing in that jar? Have you test burned one all the way down? That seems small to me.

I started with the 765s and 767s for all my pints based on suggestions on this forum, I thought.  They perform well with other oils--jar doesn't get too hot, hot throw is great; although I do notice a lot of flickering.  I certainly will start testing with the 790s.  Thanks!

[GoldieMN]

I checked my old notes... for a pint size (16 oz mason) I used a Premier 790 and a 793 for heavier fo's, try wicking up.

Are you curing the candles for at least a week before testing? That can make a big difference in ht. It may just be that particular fo doesn't throw well in soy, but imo, I'd try wicking up.

Yes, hard as it is, I do wait at least 1-2 weeks before testing.  I do burn all the way to the bottom of the jar as well.  Will definitely wick up once I get more wax. Thanks!

Goldie

[Guest OldGlory]

I started with the 765s and 767s for all my pints based on suggestions on this forum, I thought.  They perform well with other oils--jar doesn't get too hot, hot throw is great; although I do notice a lot of flickering.  I certainly will start testing with the 790s.  Thanks!

I have only tested with 415, but you might get good results with a wick as low as 780. My tester with dye burned well with a 785. However, I got very little hot throw using this wax and a 6% FO load.

[GoldieMN]

Can I remelt the jars I have in order to repour with a 780 wick?  And if so, do I add more oil?  Bring to 180 again?

GoldieMN

[Guest OldGlory]

Some people yank the wick out with pliers and just stick the other size into the hole. If you're going to melt it down there's a chance you'll lose some fragrance in the process. I don't know if it will change anything else.

[GoldieMN]

Some people yank the wick out with pliers and just stick the other size into the hole. If you're going to melt it down there's a chance you'll lose some fragrance in the process. I don't know if it will change anything else.

Great idea!  Thanks.  Might as well try that while waiting for more wax.

GoldieMN

[GoldieMN]

I jerked out the 767 Premier wicks and replaced with 785s.  Much better hot throw! THANK YOU SO MUCH!   I test for four hours at a time which gives a 1/4" melt pool.  I'm going to try another test with 780 Premier wicks as the jar (in the area of the flame) gets too hot to hold after 4 seconds.  Or is that normal?  

GoldieMN

[Guest OldGlory]

I would definitely try to go down one size.The trouble with a taller jar is the amount of heat it holds. Have you considered a shorter jar?

I am not sure most people will burn a candle for 4 hours. I usually test for a 3 hour burn. So, give it a few days, put the smaller wick in, and see how that burns.

[GoldieMN]

I would definitely try to go down one size.The trouble with a taller jar is the amount of heat it holds. Have you considered a shorter jar?

I am not sure most people will burn a candle for 4 hours. I usually test for a 3 hour burn. So, give it a few days, put the smaller wick in, and see how that burns.

That actually sounds like a perfect solution:  A shorter jar!  I was so set on the pint jars because that is a popular size in my area.  No reason why I HAVE to compete with those companies.  So I'm on my way to check prices on the square 1/2-pint canning jars.  Need to order more Premier wicks just not sure if I should order 765s&767s for the shorter jars or if I will still need the 780s.  Happy to test all three but don't want to have even more wicks around here that I won't use.

Edited May 20, 2015 by GoldieMN

[Guest OldGlory]

I can't remember if you said you are using dye or not - I think you are not using dye.

I would try the 780, not smaller. I have a Butter Rum from BCS and it's a very heavy oil, like a creme brulee or egg nog. I have not used the Butter Rum from RE, but I bet it's also a heavy oil. Heavier oils required bigger wicks. My bet is on the 780, but you'll have to try it.

Btw, I sell the heck out of 8 oz tins with 464 wax. I love this short wide mouth container and get an AWESOME ct and ht throw from it.

[GoldieMN]

I can't remember if you said you are using dye or not - I think you are not using dye.

I would try the 780, not smaller. I have a Butter Rum from BCS and it's a very heavy oil, like a creme brulee or egg nog. I have not used the Butter Rum from RE, but I bet it's also a heavy oil. Heavier oils required bigger wicks. My bet is on the 780, but you'll have to try it.

Btw, I sell the heck out of 8 oz tins with 464 wax. I love this short wide mouth container and get an AWESOME ct and ht throw from it.

Do the tins get hot?  Hotter than a jar, that is.

GoldieMN

[Guest OldGlory]

It's been so long since I burned one top to bottom I don't remember how hot they get. I think for a 3 hour test burn they will not get as hot as a jar, but try it. They really offer a great ht.