tlc Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 First of all I am posting here b/c these are not worthy of the Candle Gallery and I am hoping to learn a thing or two.I poured these on Sunday and un-molded last night (Monday). This is what I did/used:1274 Mottle WaxBlue dye, red dye and black dye~ all liquidStearicCinnamon buns f/o (I know it doesn't go with the colors but I LOVE it )3x6.5 mold3x4.4 moldBlue candle~ heat to 195*. Add 6 or 7 drops blue dye around 190*. Next 2 tbs plus 1.5 tps stearic then stirred lots. Added f/o 1.3 oz about 190* to 185* and stirred to 180* and poured into room temp mold. Red candle~ heat wax to 195*. Add 8 drops red dye and 1 drop black around 190*, stir then added 2 tbs stearic and stir, stir. Added f/o (.9 oz) at 190* and stirred to 185* then poured.I clean my molds with a heat gun or oven (whichever is handiest) then I wash them in dawn dish soap and dry.I call these a dirty mottle due to this build up of gook. It's not f/o all together but like a sludge. I don't have the seepage like I did when I poured my very first mottles a couple of months ago. They do have this sludge type residue over the whole candle but is mainly concentrated at the top. I have to wash my hands after handling them. There are tiny pin holes on both candles, not tons of them but they are there none-the-less. You can see the pour marks on my second pour :embarasseI'm also throwing in a pic of my pouring pot which shows the residue on the bottom. I have never seen this before and wondering if it's the stearic stuck to the bottom?? I've never used stearic before so I dunno. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flicker Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Ahhh welcome to the wonderful world of mottle!I have done mottle candles for 20 years and what you have there is more scent than the wax could hold. Remember in most candles there is vybar or another binding agent. In a mottle, nothing.The max load that I recommend with the 1274 is 6% sometimes less. Back down the fragrance amount and that will stop and not happen again unless the fo is super heavy. Also I use 3 tbsp per lb steric in a straight paraffin but don't add steric to 1274. It already has it Simple solution, less fo and you will be golden Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ksranch Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Yep, my green ones had that ugly slimy sludge too!! Too much FO - now I did add steric to it, and lowered the FO and everything worked great. But, Flicker's been doing it longer than me, so I would try her way first and see if you can do it without steric first. Don't give up - you'll get it, and be glad you did!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pam W Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Yep, too much FO. I moved away from using stearic when I switched to 1274 - I now use Polyboost 150.http://www.letitshineusa.com/proddetail.asp?prod=CX15Using only 1tsp pp saves $ too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tlc Posted January 17, 2012 Author Share Posted January 17, 2012 Thanks all.Anyone have an opinion as to what the residue in the bottom of the pot is? I'm just curious about it as I have never seen this before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pam W Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 The residue in the bottom of the pot is excess FO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tlc Posted January 17, 2012 Author Share Posted January 17, 2012 Thanks Pam. Now the mystery is solved. I was thinking I didn't stir the stearic enough so now I feel better about that. No stearic next time and less f/o. Keeping my toes crossed.....Would/could that (too much f/o load) be the cause of the pin holes? The pin holes seem to be mostly in the top but a few scattered in the body too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pam W Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 I've more of those gooey candles that I care to talk about !! lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgia Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 I got pin holes from pouring too hot in a cold mold. Warm the mold a bit and after you pour gently tap the sides to release trapped air. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tlc Posted January 20, 2012 Author Share Posted January 20, 2012 Thanks for the tip Georgia. Much appreciated I'll give the mold a wrap or two after I pour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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