crazzie Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 I just cannot find the right candle.I've tried so many. Im up to $2,000. on my credit card!My last try I thought I would want to do the 100% Soy with no coloring.I tried the Soy 464 (peaks) and Eco 14 in a mason jar. No smell when I burn. The burning looks awesome. Cold throw is where I want it. Why in the world would it not give a hot throw. Very fustrating! If anyone could give me some advice, Im so confused at this moment!Thanks much! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SliverOfWax Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 Too many variables. Could be your oils. Could be your ambient burning conditions.If I had spent that much in the beginning and didn't have anything to show for it, I'd take up a different hobby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcbrook Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 When I was using soy I found there were a lot of FOs that did not work well in it. The few that did worked were excellent but they were far and few between. Make sure you are adding FO at a high enough temp and stirring for at least 2 minutes. There is a sticky in the Veggie section of this board that has a list of what other peopke have found to work in soy. Maybe start there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soy327 Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 Are you letting them cure? Be patient put the lid on it and tuck it away for a week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolphin146 Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 Are you letting them cure? Be patient put the lid on it and tuck it away for a week.I agree with soy let them cure for at least a week then try to burn it. The longer they cure the better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bella Rose Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 (edited) Candle making just isn't for anyone, no matter what you hear. At that $ amount I would also consider a different craft. Edited March 23, 2011 by Bella Rose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soy327 Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 Actually it's not hard and doesn't take long to rack up that much in supplies.Crazzie- if curing doesn't help than maybe we can look at something else in your mix. Good luck and let us know how the HT is after 1 week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazzie Posted March 23, 2011 Author Share Posted March 23, 2011 Are you letting them cure? Be patient put the lid on it and tuck it away for a week.This last batch I did over a month ago! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deb426 Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 Where did you get your oils and what were they? How much did you use per pound of wax? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WillowBoo Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 Bella Rose - you haven't been a member too long on this forum, but you act like you run the thing. Can your opinions be a little less abrasive? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deb426 Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 Bella Rose - you haven't been a member too long on this forum, but you act like you run the thing. Can your opinions be a little less abrasive?She made her first candle in January according to her earlier posts.:tiptoe: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soy327 Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 (edited) Where did you get your oils and what were they? How much did you use per pound of wax?And what wicks are you using, what diameter is your jar. Are you using straight 464 or adding anything?Willow, I agree This forum should be about helping others.Crazzie, sorry i just reread your post mason jar and eco wicks, I would use a cd 16 or 18 in that jar with straight soy. Edited March 23, 2011 by soy327 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazzie Posted March 24, 2011 Author Share Posted March 24, 2011 There is a sticky in the Veggie section of this board that has a list of what other peopke have found to work in soy. Maybe start there. I did check out the sticky veggie section. Very informattive, will read it over tonight.I used 464 no coloring, melted the wax at 175 and poured at 120. In a 8 oz mason jar with CD 10 and I also tried the 14. A BIG thanks to all who is helping. I love candles and do not want to give it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soy327 Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 Looking forward to the results (these are new testers?) please keep us posted. What FO? sorry I am a Fragrance addict. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deb426 Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 (edited) And if you want to stay with the Eco series, try a smaller one in that size jar, maybe an Eco 8 or even a 6. Eco 14 is a pretty large wick. You might be burning off your scent. Edited March 24, 2011 by deb426 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soy327 Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 There is a sticky in the Veggie section of this board that has a list of what other peopke have found to work in soy. Maybe start there.I did check out the sticky veggie section. Very informattive, will read it over tonight.I used 464 no coloring, melted the wax at 175 and poured at 120. In a 8 oz mason jar with CD 10 and I also tried the 14. A BIG thanks to all who is helping. I love candles and do not want to give it up.Wow I thought you were talkin the 16oz masons the 3+ diameter. I apologize I would put a CD8 to start in a 8oz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazzie Posted March 24, 2011 Author Share Posted March 24, 2011 Clothesline from BCNCaramel SensationandHot Cocoa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharon in KY Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 How much fo per lb of wax? I mostly use 1.5 oz FO per lb of Soy wax 435. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stella1952 Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 Candle making just isn't for anyone, no matter what you hear. At that $ amount I would also consider a different craft.I tend to agree, but when people are willing to try to learn, despite their investment or difficulty, I'll keep trying to help them.Crazzie, take heart. Pick ONE wax and stick with it. Pick ONE relatively easy container to start. Make a successfully wicked candle using that wax and a wick - nothing else. Once you succeed there, start adding things ONE at a time (fo, then dye, etc.). This allows you to build on your successes and also to learn the effect an ingredient really has on your candle system. Good luck and feel free to ask questions in the veggie wax forum anytime you are having problems with veggie wax. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricofAZ Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 (edited) Einstein and I have well over $5k in this now. We do have a lot of pillars and containers ready to sell that are good and solid products and we have a lot of inventory. I can't say that I had it all figured out at the $2K mark and even at that milestone, there was plenty of inventory.I'm using soy for scentless restaurant style candles now and have a bunch built. It was pretty easy to figure out the wick with no dye and no FO. I have totally given up on trying to make a heavy hot throw soy candle. Yeah, some FO's work, but only some. Paraffin and palm take just about anything that you can toss into the pot.I would think that at the $2K mark, there's enough to experiment with for a long time. Keep at it.The more detailed your information, the better the folks on this forum can help. I've seen a lot of very helpful people come out of the woodwork when the right information is given. Wax type and amountstable melted tempadditive types and percentages/amountsFO name and supplierFO amount used in percentageTemp FO added to waxType and amount of color (chip, block, liquid, etc)wick type and sizeidentify the containerpour temperaturecure timeAny additional information you think would help us.I sometimes think that folks want our recipes and I need to guard them closely. I'm sure some who lurk here want just that, but the folks who can help already have their own recipes and really just want to offer their experience. Edited March 24, 2011 by EricofAZ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bella Rose Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 Willow -I didn't realize the forum police were out! I'll retract my statement for YOU! Then will you be a happy camper?? To the original OP: Instead of switching your craft, how about you switch to paraffin! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bella Rose Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 She made her first candle in January according to her earlier posts.:tiptoe:And, your point is?? I can tell you right now I've spent a quarter of the money the OP has and in the past 3 months, perfected a pure soy container with manyyyyyy many scents. Intuition and lots of research !! Amazing hot & cold throw, etc...! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WillowBoo Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 Your last 2 posts just shows your arrogance. What a shame you must be that way. Your put a damper on this whole forum with your attitude and conceit. I bet your only friends are your candles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bella Rose Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 Willow, thanks but I highly doubt my presence here makes that much of an impact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stella1952 Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 Yet another thread going down the tubes because of personal carping at one another. :rolleyes2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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