Traveler Posted February 10, 2011 Share Posted February 10, 2011 Hi all,I am beginning to work with Ecosoya PB wax...so forgive me if this is a dumb question. I bought my wax from CS. On their website it says this wax has a maximum FO retention of 6%. But on the Ecosoya Website it says that this wax has the ability to hold up to 12% FO.Why would there be such a discrepancy? Is 6% the most the wax can hold for a pillar candle but if you are making tarts it can hold up to 12%? Just curious. Any input would be enlightening. Thanks!Traveler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wessex Posted February 10, 2011 Share Posted February 10, 2011 The only thing I can say is that while testing soy blends for tarts, I had no problems with 100% PB holding 9% FO load. This was just with one FO I tested, so can't say what other FO's might do in the PB. I still have several of the straight PB tarts still sitting here and after 2 months there is no FO sweating or leakage. As far as the difference between the 2 sites...can't offer anything, sorry.Cheers,Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuminousBoutique Posted February 12, 2011 Share Posted February 12, 2011 I've had no issue with up to 12% in tarts... (although generally I wont use more than 5.6-9%) but i have not tested that in pillars, I use 6.5% in pillars. Why the difference? Really I think its because CS is trying to sell their FO's too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stella1952 Posted February 12, 2011 Share Posted February 12, 2011 I use 1 oz. PP or less in PB (or any other veggie wax) for candles. I want to use the least amount of FO possible to get the throw results I am seeking.I have three major reasons for this: I don't want to use more than that because of materials cost. If a FO or wax won't work with that percentage, then I either don't use the wax or I don't use that FO.FO is a common villain in promoting frosting and other texture-related issues. Soy wax doesn't need any extra help to misbehave...FO's can cause burn issues at higher concentrations - fouling the wick, sooting of the wax and/or container, sputtering and dancing flame, etc.As for the discrepancy in recommended FO load between CS & Ecosoya - the project or purpose for which the wax is being used matters a lot. Just because a wax can hold a higher percentage (under certain circumstances) doesn't mean I want to use that much FO to get a decent throw from my CANDLES. For soy wax projects OTHER than candles (tarts, firestarters, wax ornies, hurricanes, car fresheners, etc.), I might want to add more if I don't have to worry about texture or burn issues. HTH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traveler Posted February 12, 2011 Author Share Posted February 12, 2011 Thanks for the input everyone! I just scratched my head over that one.I'll just keep testing pillars at 6% for reasons of safety as well as cost.I appreciate all your thoughts on the matter - it helps!! :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candybee Posted February 12, 2011 Share Posted February 12, 2011 I still have some Ecosoya PB leftover from when I used to use it for pillars and tarts. I loved the hot throw from it. Never used more FO than 1 oz per lb because never needed to. Like Stella says I don't bother with using more FO as its not economical nor necessary. If a FO doesn't work I move on to another. Trust me NGI waxes frost like any other soy waxes on the market so using more FO is also counterproductive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naomiheck Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 I also use that wax for tarts, with most of my fragrances at 9%. However, 9% of CS's Hansel and Gretel blew everyone in my husband's office away, so I cut back to 6%. I love CS because all the FO's I've tried from there work well for me at 6% in candles. They probably would be fine at that level for tarts too, but I'd have to test. Naomi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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