Toni S. Posted January 1, 2011 Share Posted January 1, 2011 I'm going to venture into making unscented goat's milk soap and add this to my line of CP. I'm going to be using the powder instead of fresh milk. Is there anyone who uses the powder, if so, I would appreciate any tips before I begin on it's use? Do you mix the powder w/ water and then freeze it like you would the fresh milk? Does the powder have a tendency to curdle like the fresh milk does if not added correctly. I do all my CP's at room temp. TIA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darbla Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 I checked for powdered goat's milk at my local health food store, and it was unbelievably expensive. I'd appreciate if anyone can recommend a cheap place to get it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adillenal Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 I have not seen cheap powdered goat milk but it available from suppliers that sell soap and lotion ingredients which would probably be cheaper than a health food store even with shipping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singleyellowrose Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 (edited) I'm going to venture into making unscented goat's milk soap and add this to my line of CP. I'm going to be using the powder instead of fresh milk. Is there anyone who uses the powder, if so, I would appreciate any tips before I begin on it's use? Do you mix the powder w/ water and then freeze it like you would the fresh milk? Does the powder have a tendency to curdle like the fresh milk does if not added correctly. I do all my CP's at room temp. TIAYou can either mix it with water and freeze it in cubes. Add lye SLOWLY in a cold water bath. Stir ALOT...orI use it by blending 1-1.5T ppo to the warmed oils. Blend well so there aren't any clumps left.Make your lye water and soap away.I buy mine in bulk 55# bags. I will be buying another bag in February if anyone is interested. I don't know the price yet though.ETA: the last time I purchased it, I paid roughly $6.00/lb Edited January 2, 2011 by singleyellowrose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toni S. Posted January 2, 2011 Author Share Posted January 2, 2011 Yellowrose,Thanks for the info! Was wondering if the Evaporated Goat's Milk would be easier or if there is any difference between that and the powder? Have you tried the evaporated milk?I thought I remember reading somewhere that if you just mix the powder in with the warm oils, you won't be getting the beneficial properties from the goat' milk? Could be off base on this one, not sure? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singleyellowrose Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 Yellowrose,Thanks for the info! Was wondering if the Evaporated Goat's Milk would be easier or if there is any difference between that and the powder? Have you tried the evaporated milk?I thought I remember reading somewhere that if you just mix the powder in with the warm oils, you won't be getting the beneficial properties from the goat' milk? Could be off base on this one, not sure?I have only tried once using canned GM. It had guar in it. Nuff said:angry2:IMHO, once the lye hits it, you really don't know WHAT is left. What I do know is that neither me or my customers can tell a difference and it's a WHOLE lot easier!I used to mix up the milk powder with water and freeze it and then do the SLOWLY adding the lye to it.Adding it (powdered) to the oils has REALLY simplified the process. A few less steps is great! At least for me. Do what works best for you. Make some small batches both ways and see which one you like better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toni S. Posted January 2, 2011 Author Share Posted January 2, 2011 (edited) Sounds a whole lot easier to me too! Don't want to sound stupid but what is this: "It had guar in it". Edited January 2, 2011 by Toni S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judy, USMC Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 Guar - of the legume family, grown as a forage crop and for its seeds, which produce a gum (guar gum) used as a thickening agent and stabilizer in foods and pharmaceuticals and as sizing for paper and cloth and looks like white paste if not fully incorporated.HTH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toni S. Posted January 2, 2011 Author Share Posted January 2, 2011 Wow, thanks Judy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasBrat Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 I have used powdered goats milk a long time ago and added it in powder form just before trace. I have also added fresh goats milk without trouble. I subtract the amount of water for the amount of goats milk I'm am going to use. Then, after I have added my lye water to my oils and pulse a few times then I add my goats milk. Pour into molds and freeze overnight and then put in the fridge for a short time and then take it out to warm up and unmold. Makes great soap and no icky smell of the milk or curdling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toni S. Posted January 2, 2011 Author Share Posted January 2, 2011 (edited) Thanks Brat!!Seriously though, thank you Edited January 2, 2011 by Toni S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasBrat Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 Thanks Brat!!Seriously though, thank you Did I say something funny?? I know I meant to say pour into your soap mold and not molds.(no plural) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toni S. Posted January 2, 2011 Author Share Posted January 2, 2011 Noooooooooooooo, it was just calling you a "BRAT" that struck me funny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasBrat Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 Noooooooooooooo, it was just calling you a "BRAT" that struck me funny.I gotcha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovetosoap Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 I use the powder as the amount appropriate for the amount of water in my formulation. Read the can and see how many scoops per the amount of water you are using. I always stick blended it into the oil mixture then forgot one day and threw it in at the very beginning of trace and blended like crazy. It worked fine so I don't think it's too touchy. I have found it at times on sale and free shipping on amazon. The Original Soap Dish had it on sale this summer. Haven't looked for it since. I used to do the fresh milk frozen but the powder is so much easier and I can't see any difference in the soap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisinpa Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 It is on sale at the soap dish this week, great price.I just bought some at the local health food store, 12 oz for $11.99. Kind of expensive but I figured I didn't have to pay shipping so not too bad, and its a good brand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IwantItgreen Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 I found my powdered goat's milk at a large grocery store in the health/natural foods section. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soy327 Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 I bought some evaporated goats milk at the grocer and then was told about the Guar Gum. My ingredients don't have it listed, should I be looking for some scientific name for the guar gum? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toni S. Posted January 7, 2011 Author Share Posted January 7, 2011 Soy,This is the INCI name I found on the internet :Guar Gum -Cyamopsis Tetragonoloba (Guar) Gum It's not on my cans of evaporated milk! HTH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toni S. Posted January 7, 2011 Author Share Posted January 7, 2011 FYI for those using Meyenberg's GM:Hello Toni Seitz;Thank you so much for taking the time to email us with your questions aboutMeyenberg Evaporated Goat Milk.Our Meyenberg Evaporated Goat Milk is all natural and contains onlyconcentrated goat milk. We do not add any fillers or starches to our milkproducts, so there would be no guar gum in the milk.We do recommend shaking the cans of milk very well before opening, thenusing as your recipe indicates. If you are going to drink the milk, werecommend mixing with one can of purified water, or more if desired bytaste.Once the milk has been reconstituted, we suggest using the milk within 5days after mixing and store in an airtight container towards the back ofyour refrigerator where the milk will be the coldest.I hope this helps to answer your question, please let me know if I can be ofadditional assistance in anyway regarding Meyenberg Goat Milk products. Wethank you for your support of Meyenberg products, and greatly appreciate youas our customer! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soy327 Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 Thanks for the research you did:yay:Mine is the same brand as yours, Meyenberg GM evaporated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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