Pristina Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 Do you re-test with the wax to make sure it hasn't changed at all (even though it's the same wax you've been using from the same supplier) Also, if you do re-test, how do you do it? Do you test each scent? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovemylabs Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 We retest with each new shipment even thought it's the same wax as ordered before. We'll test several fragrances with the new shipment and we do not change anything (same oils/same amount of oil, wicks, dye, etc). We should get the same results as previous shipments. If something is wrong with the candles, we'll know something is up with the wax. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judy, USMC Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 We retest with each new shipment even thought it's the same wax as ordered before. We'll test several fragrances with the new shipment and we do not change anything (same oils/same amount of oil, wicks, dye, etc). We should get the same results as previous shipments. If something is wrong with the candles, we'll know something is up with the wax.Same here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pristina Posted October 12, 2010 Author Share Posted October 12, 2010 Do you still do this if your wax has the same lot number on it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stella1952 Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 Ditto and yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandgirl Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 Do you still do this if your wax has the same lot number on it?Nope - If its the same lot number and date. I don't retest each 50 pound box.I will order hundreds of pounds of wax at one time - As long as the lot #'s are all them same, I am good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judy, USMC Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 I always do one with no FO or dye out of each box regardless of lot #. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Ford Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 You absolutely-positively must test every new batch - before you start production. Wax is manufactured to physical properties - NOT performance or application. If it's in spec - it's good - even if it doesn't act like you would like. You need your own QC to test for batch to batch variations. Wax - regardless of soy, paraffin, blends - or manufacturer - is not a widget. It will never be exactly the same every time. Now, the quality of products available is usually so good and consistent - it may seem like every batch is the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brenda (OH) Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 I also re-test . . .learned this lesson the hard way. Re-work is such a PITA :lipsrseal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandgirl Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 So you all retest each 50lb box of wax even if it has the same lot# and date on the boxes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brenda (OH) Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 I will re-test a couple recipes with light & heavy scents. I usually buy my wax in bulk so I don't have to do it too often. But I do it just to be safe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharon in KY Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 No... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brenda (OH) Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 I will add . . Before blending my own paraffin & soy I bought a pre-blended parasoy. I had ordered 12 cases of wax, all the same lot number on the boxes, and I had inconsistencies in burn quality thru out all of those cases No 2 cases burned the same! I had a HUGE mess ! I was pissed, sick to my stomach, and at my wits end all during a fundraiser. The supplier was not cooperative.I learned the hard way and since only blend my own wax. I will usually pour up testers especially when opening new boxes even with the same lot numbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandgirl Posted October 15, 2010 Share Posted October 15, 2010 Ok.. This thread jinxed me...Get this... Pouring candles yesterday and when I got 3/4 the way down my box of C-3 my pots of wax started to snap, crackle, pop and bubble. It looked like someone added soap to the wax.... The wax never got clear as I heated it, it remained really cloudy and thick where I could not see the bottom of my pot. The weird thing is, the first 3/4 of this box melted fine!!! WEIRD!!!So here we are talking about checking each 50 pound box of wax and lot #'s. Now remember, this box was fine until I got 3/4 of the way down it. This is the first time that this has ever happened me... :rolleyes2 LOL.. I did pour the batch, and bundled up the rest of that C-3.. I will see how it burns today.How's that for screwing up our testing methods!!! LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brenda (OH) Posted October 15, 2010 Share Posted October 15, 2010 Let us know how they burn for you today !! Hopefully all will be fine . . sending good karma your way . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bart70 Posted October 18, 2010 Share Posted October 18, 2010 Ok...This thread has intigued me.Recently one of the 2 Australian suppliers had a problem with their feather palm. I only found out by accident and noticed some of my candles burn characteristics had completely changed (The supplier has made no attempt to let its customer know however....).My question is - How many of you have noticed changes significant enough to effect burn characteristics from box to box? How regular or common is it for the wax to change from box to box? My question is more aimed towards feather palm users - mainly because I have been advised from a technical perspective that due to the nature of how feather palm is made it is much less likely to suffer variations.Am curious to know how often people have found their wax has changed?Cheers,Rob. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gucci Posted October 18, 2010 Share Posted October 18, 2010 Because I start off with a straight paraffin and add my own additives I generally can "feel" if something is amuck when I pull the first candle out of the mold. If its sweating FO or not grabbing color then I start questioning if the wax is a different make up from the supplier. But I can generally fix the issue just by adjusting my additives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandgirl Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 Let us know how they burn for you today !! Hopefully all will be fine . . sending good karma your way . .OK - Done testing the weird batch. 1st candle - tough to burn, small flame, had to dump out wax to keep lit.Pulled some more to test from same box - Wick drowning on 2nd burn !So - The bottom half of the C-3 melted and performed differently than the top half.. Bottom half of box melted cloudy with soapy bubbles in the pot. Plus I noticed little strands of what looked like oil in the wax when melted that would disintegrate when mixed in the melted wax.Maybe they greased the machines during this batch and it got in the wax?Not only can a lot/batch be different, but part wax in a box itself..Now I have 5 cases of pumpkin candles I can't use... UUGGHHH..The fun of candle pouring during the busy season :rolleyes2The candle to the left is from the top half of box.The candle to the right is from the bottom half of box.The candle to the right drowned out shortly after taking this picture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brenda (OH) Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 OMG . .your piddly candles look like what I dealt with ! I feel your pain . . .With my "bum" wax I ended up using it in tarts no matter what I did it wouldn't burn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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