WicknScents Posted May 25, 2009 Share Posted May 25, 2009 any suggestions on getting my lip balm not to melt when its been in the tubes? here is what I usemango buttercocoa buttervitamin ebeeswaxflavoringTIA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scented Posted May 25, 2009 Share Posted May 25, 2009 Up the amount of beeswax and cocoa butter would be my suggestion, maybe remove the mango and use cocoa instead, or sub cocoa for a portion of the mango. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singleyellowrose Posted May 25, 2009 Share Posted May 25, 2009 I would replace some of the beeswax with Candililla (sp) wax. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WicknScents Posted May 25, 2009 Author Share Posted May 25, 2009 thanks for the advice.. tonight I am gonna try to lessen the mango and add more beeswax, if that doesn't work i will try to go without the mangowill let ya know! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekeeper_sd Posted May 25, 2009 Share Posted May 25, 2009 Just keep adding more beeswax until you find a formula that works. I use seven different oils (inlcuding 3 liquid oils) in my beeswax lip balms and used to have the same problem with them melting in your pocket. I added more beeswax and have come up with a wonderful lip balm formula that stays firm in your pocket and still feels fantastic on your lips. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scented Posted May 25, 2009 Share Posted May 25, 2009 I would replace some of the beeswax with Candililla (sp) wax.That's a good suggestion too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CandleMama6 Posted August 15, 2009 Share Posted August 15, 2009 Just keep adding more beeswax until you find a formula that works. I use seven different oils (inlcuding 3 liquid oils) in my beeswax lip balms and used to have the same problem with them melting in your pocket. I added more beeswax and have come up with a wonderful lip balm formula that stays firm in your pocket and still feels fantastic on your lips.Are you willing to share your formula? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekeeper_sd Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 Are you willing to share your formula?Sorry, but no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoapDiva Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 See, this is a tricky one. For me, I call my lip balms, lip butters. I don't want a lot of wax in my products. I warn customers that because it is not a commercial product, it is a softer one, and not to store it in their pockets, leave it sitting out in the sun etc. We've been having long hot days here and my product is very soft while the temps are like this. In fact, I will not take them to markets if the temps are going to be over 30 (+90 for you guys) unless I know I can keep them in the shade.You need to remember as well that even commercial products, on hot days get soft and mushy. They have tons of additives and fillers to make it a hard product - and even THEY will melt if left out. People somehow expect that our products will behave like the commercial ones, but be better quality. Just like the whole preservative argument you can't have your cake and eat it too! People don't seem to mind that mine are softer than the norm (in the summer), and I get a lot of repeat business. Mine contain: BeeswaxJojoba oilHazelnut oilShea butter (and yes, the shea migrates to party with it's buddies, it's a visual thing - I tell customers this and they're ok with it) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CareBear Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 keep in mind that some waxes and butters take a few days to reach peak hardness, so don't judge your concoctions too early!Mine is as stable as anything commercial and doesn't get too soft in pockets on summer days. Sure they'll melt in the car in August, but they are fine pretty much any other time. Without those evil "additives and fillers".Keep working and don't compromise if you don't want to. You CAN make a great product.I LIKE to have my cake and eat it too = it's a win-win! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoapDiva Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 Carebear, would you care to share your percentages of wax/hard and soft oils?I need to make more soon, and you're right, I wanna have my cake and eat it too.Be a sharebear? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miniiB Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 This website has good recipes for lipbalms. I use the Creamy lipbalm recipe and it turned out great!!!!http://www.bathandbodyrecipes.com/53/lip-balm-recipes.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CareBear Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 I started with the formula for Java Juice (I think it's called) from Majestic Mountain Sage. They send it when you buy the coffee butter so I don't think it's fair to share the details. They may send it upon request if you buy other stuff too.Anyway, it's in the other building so this is a GUESS from memory:<15% beeswax~15% candelilla wax~45% buttersremainder oils and flavor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoapDiva Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 Thanks! the 45% butters, would that be a brittle (like cocoa) or hard at room temp butter (shea).Thanks so much for sharing that! When my company all leaves and I have more than three seconds of time not devoted to making soap like a mad woman, I will have to play again. We moved across the country, and it is much hotter here, so it is playing havoc with my balms. If I can create a nice one that stays firm in this heat, I'll be a happy camper!I cannot remember where I got this (I think from here?) I just had it copied onto a notebook and thought I would post it here as well for future reference, I got it recently. I *think* it might be from MMS if I am remembering correctly. Another poster posted it here.20% Beeswax25% solid at room temperature oil (Coconut Oil, Palm Oil, Shea Butter, Lanolin, etc.)15% brittle at room temperature oil (Regular Cocoa Butter, Palm Kernel Oil, etc.)40% liquid oil at room temperature (Sweet Almond Oil, Olive Oil, Avocado Oil, etc.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CareBear Posted August 22, 2009 Share Posted August 22, 2009 Thanks! the 45% butters, would that be a brittle (like cocoa) or hard at room temp butter (shea).As I said, they offer it with a purchase so I'm not going to say more. Besides, you will need to tweak it to suit your needs anyway - so try some things and see what works for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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