Rae Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 Okay....I am new to the B&B and need help on lip balm labels.I love WSP lip balm for sticks, but their ingredients are so long to fit on the label. Therefore, I used 2 different recipes, not using their base, and they are okay but not as great as WSP base.Here are the ingredients from their website:Ricinus Communis (Castor) Seed Oil (and) Cetyl Stearyl Alcohol (and) Olea Europaea (Olive) Fruit Oil (and) Beeswax (and) Hydrogenated Castor Oil (and) Glycine Soja (Soybean) Lipids (and) Lauryl Laurate (and) Copernicia Cerifera (Carnauba) Wax (and) Euphorbia Cerifera (Candelilla) WaxSo, don't use the botanical names and just the "Caster Seed Oil", etc, etc?TIA!Rae Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bells4shells Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 I'm making the switch to labeling everything I have with their proper INCI labels. I'd recommend you keep the same format you got from WSP just to be on the safe side. However, I've seen some products labeled where you can find ingredient listing on a website. I think it's better to have it on the actual product, but if you're worried about length, then maybe the website would be an option in this case? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ah-soy Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 Welcome to the world of B&B...it's addicting and you will love it! If you will be selling your products, best to follow the FDA guidelines for cosmetic labeling. Here's the link:http://www.cfsan.fda.gov/%7Edms/cos-lab1.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rae Posted February 23, 2009 Author Share Posted February 23, 2009 Thank you both for your replies!Rae Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rae Posted February 24, 2009 Author Share Posted February 24, 2009 Here is the reply from BB about not putting "EO" or "FO" on the labels of what I ordered. I did mention to them that I thought FDA required them to list what the product was, ie "FO" or "EO".RaeThanks for checking in! I'm so sorry that there was some confusion on the labels of your Essential Oils! All of our Essential Oils and Fragrance Oils are poured to order and as far as we know the FDA doesn’t require us to label our bottles with the distillation methods, etc. since we are not in a retail setting (and because we list that information on the website). The labels are typed up and printed off by the same people who pour the Essential Oils and if there have been a lot of orders they aren’t always as careful as they should be and they might leave off some of that information from the labels. We’ll definitely talk to them about that to make sure they try a little harder to get that information on there every time! J Please let me know if you have any questions! Have a fabulous day! Michelle www.brambleberry.com www.otionsoap.com www.teachsoap.com http://soap-queen.blogspot.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OverSoyed Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 What about lip balms like this that have Vitamin E?http://www.beenaturalstore.com/the-best-all-natural-lip-balm.htmlGranted.. I don't know if they are certified or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scented Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 You cannot list Vitamin E regardless unless certified because the FDA considers it a drug.;If she isn't certified, she could definitely be fined heavily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OverSoyed Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 That's what's so confusing about it all. I must have found 200 similar websites offering Vitamin E in their lip balms, and making statements that it moisturizes your lips better, yadda yadda... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scented Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 And you could turn every one of them into the FDA. They can't make those claims without being qualified to sell drugs. You can put tocopheryl (think that's the spell), but again, a cosmetic can make absolutely no claim. It just is what it is. Once a claim is made ... FDA can get rich. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scented Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 Buy a labeling book. They are available at Southern Soapers. If you're going to sell the stuff, you need the "bible" so to speak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OverSoyed Posted June 12, 2009 Share Posted June 12, 2009 I'm aware of the regular labeling requirements, sizing, and so on... it just boggled my mind seeing all these company's with vit. E. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scented Posted June 12, 2009 Share Posted June 12, 2009 I'm not ... any more that is. People either don't think they'll get caught, think they have an edge over a competitor, don't want to learn about the rules, because rules don't apply to them, or they can't read. Maybe they can, but why should they? You'd be amazed at how much ignorance is out there and what they make. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OverSoyed Posted June 12, 2009 Share Posted June 12, 2009 Ignorance of the law is no excuse! :rolleyes2It does suck however, especially with something like vitamin E, which has a proven track record of what it can do.I mean, I could understand is someone said... "Our soap cures disease!"It's a two double edged sword when it comes to labeling. As a consumer, you want to know what is in a product. As a business person, even when making a natural product, labeling with the scientific and botanical names looks scary to a customer. "You say that your product is all natural... why are there ingredients with words a mile long!?!":tiptoe: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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