Candlebuddy Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 I've been test burning Pumpkin Vanilla (The Candle Source) in 6006 since Monday. The wicks I've used are LX20, LX18, RRD47, CD14, 51-32-18z and ECO8 ... most of these wicks are suggested by the Candle Science wick guide.I've found that all the wicks have been mushrooming (I trim the wicks after each burn), all have a good melt pool and leave no wax hangup. The only difference I've is the amount of sooting that each wick produces. Based on that, the LX20 gets my vote ... soot does not seem to be a problem with this wick.Almost forgot ... 6% fo in 8oz square mason jars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judy, USMC Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 Thanks, CandleBuddy!I'll be picking up a couple of cases soon - and use the 8oz square masons too. You've just saved me about a weeks worth of testing. Wish there was some way of compensating you. :highfive: Bless you for sharing !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candlebuddy Posted October 3, 2008 Author Share Posted October 3, 2008 Glad I could be of help Judy. Tomorrow I plan on pouring Apples & Evergreen and Cranberry Peach Cider (both from The Candle Source). I'll let you know in a few days if the LX20 still passes the test. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tootie04 Posted October 4, 2008 Share Posted October 4, 2008 Did you test one wick down for the CD?? I tested that jar and that wax but I think I used a CD 10 or 12 in there.tootie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candlebuddy Posted October 4, 2008 Author Share Posted October 4, 2008 Hey tootie ... I only tested the CD14, it burned well ... the only problem I had with it was the soot; it had the most soot of all the wicks I tested.Do you think if I tried a CD12 it would produce less soot? I did test the CD12 in a 70/30 blend of Comfort Blend (4627) and soy (444) ... but again, I got alot of soot. I'm beginning to think that maybe CD's don't do well in a blend that's more paraffin than soy. I poured more testers yesterday; I'll post the results just in case anyone's interested. Any input is greatly appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lsbennis Posted October 4, 2008 Share Posted October 4, 2008 Candlebuddy how did the zinc and LX's work with the 6006...I find they work best for me in a 50/50 blend and have tried them also in the 6006 with good results...I usually dont use more then 6% fo in these waxes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candlelady Posted October 4, 2008 Share Posted October 4, 2008 Candlebuddy, I'm really glad you posted your wick testing, as I've been using the CD14's. Even though they "do the job" the soot and mushrooming is driving me nuts! I'm testing the LX20's next week per your suggestion. Gotta have a cleaner candle....BUT, my customers are not complaining as well as my retailers.....but, we can always do better, right?Thanks,Carrie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbren Posted October 4, 2008 Share Posted October 4, 2008 Interested in how the RRD performed in this wax.Those are what I use in my soy candles, and they also mushroom, but no soot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candlebuddy Posted October 5, 2008 Author Share Posted October 5, 2008 Isbennis ... the zinc's and the LX's worked best for me in 6006. I'm doing another test with these 2 wicks just to make sure which one I like best. Right now, I'm leaning toward the LX, but we'll see once the testing is complete. I'm keeping the fo at 6% in 6006 ... any higher, and I think I'll have more of a soot problem. Candlelady ... I agree with you, the CD14 does the job, but the amount of soot I'm getting on my jars is crazy ... and, out of all the wicks I tested, the CD14 mushrooms the most. You're right, I think there's always room for improvement, with my candles anyway. Jbren ... the RRD47 gave me alot of soot in 6006, but is was better than the LX18, ECO8 and CD14, it also had a large mushroom. Maybe it will do better for me if I retest in a different fo. Thanks everyone for your input ... I really appreciate all the advice I can get. I just want this wax/wick testing over with, hopefully, I'll get closer to deciding the best combo that will work for me soon. I'm getting a little frustrated and a bit stressed. *faint* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tootie04 Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 I dont remember alot of soot. I have to look at my notes and dig up my old thread. I think I mixed a little soy(15%) in with the 6006 for that jar because I will NOT repour. I did not color and I trimmed the wicks really short I remember that much. I tested this back in April I think. I think I only tested tins with 100% 6006 since they dont require a repour.tootie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candlebuddy Posted October 5, 2008 Author Share Posted October 5, 2008 Hey Tootie ... I didn't have to repour in my 8oz masons, in fact, I think 6006 is easy to work with, no problems with the wax at all. I did color them using the color chips from Candle Science. And like you, I trimmed my wicks really short. I'm going to start test burning Apples & Evergreen and Cranberry Peach Cider tomorrow ... I'll post my findings in a few days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tootie04 Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 I know I added 15% soy to that 6006 for that jar. But that little bit of soy should not change wick size. I had alot of help from a lady on here who uses the 6006 ALOT. I know I had very little if any soot and no smoking using that CD 12 in that jar.tootie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cindym Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 zincs always seemed to work best for me in this wax. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candlebuddy Posted October 6, 2008 Author Share Posted October 6, 2008 Thanks Tootie ... I'll give it a try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candlebuddy Posted October 9, 2008 Author Share Posted October 9, 2008 Just an update for those interested ... after much testing, I've decided to go with zinc wicks ... they seem to do the best in the majority of the fo's that I'm using. However, I must say, LX20's in my 8oz square mason jars work well too. Both type wicks mushroom, and both soot, but very little. I think the key is to keep the fo to 6% and trim the wicks low. Here's my results ...8oz jelly - 51z8oz sq. mason - 60z(Of course, wicking up and/or down may be necessary with some scents ... but generally these sizes worked great for me.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tootie04 Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 Did ya try the CD's and adding just a little soy?? I think you can get rid of the soot if you try adding 10-15% soy to the 6006.I never tested the zincs or the LX's.tootie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judy, USMC Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 Candlebuddy - Just about the time you get this wax/wick figured out I'll just be getting my wax! :highfive: I get my wax the 18th and could do some testing in a JJ or SqMason around the 21st. Just let me know what you haven't tried. Since the CDN's are geared for the natural wax - I don't think they're even worth testing. PM anytime! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candlelady Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 Candlebuddy and others: I've been pouring the 6006 in 8 oz. and 16 oz. sq. mason jars and have quite a few with holes at the wicks, not all of them, but approx. 10-15 jars in 100 candles poured. I've had my candle room pretty darn warm and that didn't help either....Me and my heat gun are getting to be great friends ~ and that's not a good thing! LOLAny suggestions?Thanks,Carrie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tootie04 Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 Candlebuddy and others: I've been pouring the 6006 in 8 oz. and 16 oz. sq. mason jars and have quite a few with holes at the wicks, not all of them, but approx. 10-15 jars in 100 candles poured. I've had my candle room pretty darn warm and that didn't help either....Me and my heat gun are getting to be great friends ~ and that's not a good thing! LOLAny suggestions?Thanks,CarrieThis happened to me too. If you add 15% soy to the 6006 this seems to go away. 6006 likes containers that are wide. I tested 100% 6006 in the tins and did not have this problem. If you add 15% soy it will NOT change your wicking....at least mine didnt change. tootie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tootie04 Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 Candlebuddy - Just about the time you get this wax/wick figured out I'll just be getting my wax! :highfive: I get my wax the 18th and could do some testing in a JJ or SqMason around the 21st. Just let me know what you haven't tried. Since the CDN's are geared for the natural wax - I don't think they're even worth testing. PM anytime!I "think" I tested a CDN wick with this wax....I didnt see much difference from the CD's if any.tootie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judette Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 I will also be testing this wax this weekend. This is a new wax to me. I have been away from candlemaking for a couple of years. Past preferences before were 223 and 4627. I do have these waxes on hand. Unless they have changed alot I will be able to not have to do much testing with using my old notes. However I do have some new fragrances to test. Anyway, I will be testing LX, zinc and HTP in the 6006. Since the 6006 has some soy/vegetable wax in it and I am not familiar with soy, is this a good start point? What is the % of veggie? Went on IGI site. No #'s. Not trying to butt in on your thread, however, it will be interesting if we have similar results. I have no CD wicks. Not planning on purchasing. I have two drawers full of everything but CD. I will hopefully also take pics comparing burn every three hours. Sometimes what I think at first is a crappy wick turns out to be the best for mid and end burn. Catches up to itself. Also why I do not test by poking a hole and inserting a different wick. Never has worked out well for me. Goodluck with your testing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candlebuddy Posted October 13, 2008 Author Share Posted October 13, 2008 Tootie ... I didn't mix in soy, I was hoping to wick properly in straight 6006. If I decide to mix waxes, I'll post results. Judy ... the wicks I've tried are LX20, LX18, RRD47, CD14, 51-32-18z, 60-44-18 and ECO8. For an 8oz square mason jar, I liked the LX20 and the 60-44-18 the best. I did find that for a couple of scents, I had to use a 51-32-18z. Candlelady ... after pouring, I've been placing my jars on a heating pad (I read about doing this from another 6006 user). I also place the jars close together (sides touching). Then I cover the candles with a box, turn off the heating pad, and let the candles cool. By using this process, I'm happy to say that I haven't had any problems with holes around the wick. In fact, I don't even have to repour. So far, they've turned out beautiful. Judette ... after doing alot of research, I believe that 6006 is 80% paraffin and 20% soy. I also think that LX and zinc wicks are good ones to start testing. I've read where others use HTP's with good results. Tonight I'm pouring a few more testers ... I'll post my results in a few days. Thanks everyone for your comments ... let me know how your testing is going as well. :highfive: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debk Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 I love the Ultra wicks. They stay straight while burning and no soot. they throw well in 6006, 50/50 and soy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debk Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 forgot, i used 8 oz. masons but they work great in other jars and in the palm waxes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judy, USMC Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 DebK - Since there are so many sizes of Ultra Cores available could you recommend a starting point for the 8oz masons? I know it's going to vary on the FO used ... just need a starting point. Only got 5 of each size in my tester pack. Also, are you using the small square masons or the 8 oz round jelly jars?Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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