tootie04 Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 I am going to dig out my 464 and give it another try. I am going to test 8oz tins with CD and CDN and ECO wicks. I will post the scents I am testing as soon as I decide which ones I will test. tootie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwillo2 Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 Hey Tootie,I am STILL testing the 464....LOL But we must be on the same wave length... I finally mastered this wax, got 7 scents to work beautifully in it, and have got the wicking down for the 4oz, 8oz, and 16oz WM jars....I have been checking prices for the 8oz travel tin. I would like to get this container mastered and maybe finally start a little business.I was testing wicks with cd, lx, and rrd's but due to CS's Eco suggestion, I tried them and have found the Eco's to perform better for me. Please share your opinion on the different wicks in this wax. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tootie04 Posted August 13, 2008 Author Share Posted August 13, 2008 I will share for sure....How long are you curing before testing for HT??I was thinking a week or so.tootie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwillo2 Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 I have been testing after 2 days. It kills me to wait!So far I have been testing Candlescience and Brighterscents FO's with the 464. I do have to wait a week to get a good HT from the FO's from BS whereas CS's FOs have a good HT in 2 days. But overall a week's cure time definetly is great with this wax IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndulgentCreations Posted August 14, 2008 Share Posted August 14, 2008 I was testing wicks with cd, lx, and rrd's but due to CS's Eco suggestion, I tried them and have found the Eco's to perform better for me. Please share your opinion on the different wicks in this wax.I am finding this to be true for me too. I've been testing 8 oz tins and so far the ECO's are the best out of RRD, LX, HTP and ECO's. I've been adjusting the LX's trying to get them to work too since I have a bunch of those wicks on hand...but REALLY liking the ECO's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
logcabinmomma Posted August 14, 2008 Share Posted August 14, 2008 I really like CDs still for these too. Start with a 10 for most fragrances.-Kristi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tootie04 Posted August 14, 2008 Author Share Posted August 14, 2008 I really like CDs still for these too. Start with a 10 for most fragrances.-KristiThanks for the suggestion. I was thinking a 12 or 14 but I will try a 10 and see how it goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
logcabinmomma Posted August 14, 2008 Share Posted August 14, 2008 Thanks for the suggestion. I was thinking a 12 or 14 but I will try a 10 and see how it goes.Heavy scents will tunnel, but most will have a hangup and then catch up at the bottom.-Kristi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tootie04 Posted August 14, 2008 Author Share Posted August 14, 2008 OK, I poured 3 8oz tins and one 4oz tin.one 8oz tin (Old Fashioned Christmas) KY CD12 wickone 8oz tin (Hot Apple Pie) KY CD12 wickone 8oz tin (Spruce Tree) Peaks CD12 wick one 4oz tin (hot apple pie) KY CD8 wickall scented at 1.25 oz per pd wax. I used ONLY the 464 wax. I did not mix anything with it.I will start test burning MONDAY.tootie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tootie04 Posted August 15, 2008 Author Share Posted August 15, 2008 I dont know if I can wait till Monday!!!!! Those candles smell soooo good!! They all set up smooth EXCEPT for the Spruce Tree one....maybe it is the FO or maybe it was a little too hot when I poured that one. I dont know. tootie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tootie04 Posted August 18, 2008 Author Share Posted August 18, 2008 I lit the 4oz tin on Sat and it burned great. The HT was WONDERFUL and it was giving off scent after about 15-20 min. I used a CD8 and I think it is gonna be OK in this FO. There is just a little hang up so I think it will catch up and clean the sides.I just lit the 8oz Old Fashioned Christmas tin with the CD 12 in it I will report on it later this evening.....I can smell it now after being lit for just a few min.tootie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tootie04 Posted August 18, 2008 Author Share Posted August 18, 2008 I have almost a FMP after 2.5hrs. It is 75 in the house and over 100 outside so maybe a CD 10 would work now but I am not sure when the weather cools down if the CD 10 would still work. I dont have any CD 10's right now so I will get some when I order and test those too. I will continue to burn this candle to see how hot the tin gets and how deep the MP gets on down toward the bottom.Tootie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tootie04 Posted August 19, 2008 Author Share Posted August 19, 2008 I lit the Spruce tree tin and WOW is it wonderful!! I love this scent for a pine scent. Anyway it has been lit for 3.5 hrs and not quite a FMP so that is good. I will put it out at 7pm and relight it tomorrow. I will finish the evening out relighting the Old Fashioned Christmas tin and see how that goes.tootie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
logcabinmomma Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 Sounds good! With my 4 oz tins I was able to go down to a cd 5... and 8 would have been too hot too fast. The pine and really heavy scents I used a 12 in an 8 oz, but almost everything else was fine with a 10. Those tins really clean the sides toward the bottom!!!-Kristi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tootie04 Posted August 19, 2008 Author Share Posted August 19, 2008 I need to remember to order CD 10 wicks. I have a feeling you are very right. I know a FMP in the first one or two burns will mean the tin is too hot at the end.As far as HT and CT goes, so far in the scents I have tested, is WONDERFUL. I am still gonna test a mix of 4630 in the 464 next week cause I know I am gonna find some FO's I love will not throw in the soy.tootie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Circle Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 I have been testing 8oz tins and am getting frustrated, using EO mixes and some FO and cannot get them to burn clean or even close with CD 12 & 14. I am burning cedarwood and lavender EO now with a CD16 and it looks like I am still going to have lots of wax left over. Using GB415 and CO????? 4oz tins are mastered with either CD 10 or RRD 34, both are fantastic, long burn clean afterwards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
logcabinmomma Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 415 has a much higher melt point than 464- take my suggestions and bring them up a BUNCH! For example, if I use a cd 5 in a 4 oz and you use a cd 10 in a 4 oz, try using a cd 20 in an 8 oz (where I would use a 10). They are NOT the same animals!!!-Kristi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tootie04 Posted August 20, 2008 Author Share Posted August 20, 2008 The 464 is WAY more friendly to burn than the 415. You may want to try some. I dont put EO's in my candles though....to expensive for me.The 464 is just alot easier to play with IMOtootie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tootie04 Posted August 20, 2008 Author Share Posted August 20, 2008 I have been testing 8oz tins and am getting frustrated, using EO mixes and some FO and cannot get them to burn clean or even close with CD 12 & 14. I am burning cedarwood and lavender EO now with a CD16 and it looks like I am still going to have lots of wax left over. Using GB415 and CO????? 4oz tins are mastered with either CD 10 or RRD 34, both are fantastic, long burn clean afterwardsone more thing...if you stick with the 415 you will most likely have to double wick the 8oz tin.tootie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tootie04 Posted August 21, 2008 Author Share Posted August 21, 2008 Still test burning the 8oz Spruce Tree and Old Fashioned Christmas. Both seem to be doing fine. Sometimes I get a FMP and sometimes I get a little hang-up. The CD 12's may work for these two FO's after all. I like the 464 alone for one reason....the candle lasts alot longer it seems like. Whenever I mix para in with the soy the candles dont seem to last as long BUT HT seems to be better.I am going to order the 4630 tomorrow and another 10lbs of the 464 to see how this mix will compare to the 6036. tootie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwillo2 Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 Hi Tootie,Glad to hear your testing is going well.. I am anxious to try the tins but got to wait a bit longer for the funds...LOLI am very curious to know how the 4630/464 acts. Can't wait to hear the results and to try it too. Overall I am pleased with the 464 but if blended with the 4630 gives an even better HT then I am all for that. I just do not want to cut my burn times.(by too much anyway) Who knows though.. that might eliminate or help the frosting too then there would not be so much pre-work before pouring for me.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Circle Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 Thanks for your advise, all. I am buying a whole lot of C3 next as I really like this wax. Done my testing with 415, still prefer C3. Have to start testing all over LOL!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
logcabinmomma Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 Thanks for your advise, all. I am buying a whole lot of C3 next as I really like this wax. Done my testing with 415, still prefer C3. Have to start testing all over LOL!!!Do yourself a favor and test a little 464 too. C3 is somewhere between 415 and 464 in ease of use.-Kristi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Circle Posted August 23, 2008 Share Posted August 23, 2008 Hi Kristi, thank you for that advice. I have tested 464 (not very intensively) and found it cracks and has terrible wet spots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
logcabinmomma Posted August 23, 2008 Share Posted August 23, 2008 See, for me, C3 cracked terribly and when fixing the cracks without a repour it frosted horribly. And I've never had a crack or wet spot with 464! Go figure!-Kristi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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