cbarber03 Posted February 16, 2007 Share Posted February 16, 2007 Yep, it's me again with another question:tiptoe: . I have made two batches of soap now, one CPHP and the other CPOP. Both have add a weird smell to them, but seem to become more like the FO as each day passes. They kind of smell oily! I used 1 oz pp in the CPHP and .5 oz pp in the CPOP. The first was Pink Sugar from NG and the second was Green Tea & Lemongrass from CS. Do soaps usually take a few days or more to lose the smell of the other ingredients and before they begin to smell like the FO you wanted them to?Thank in advance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CareBear Posted February 16, 2007 Share Posted February 16, 2007 Many scents seem to "morph" during the soaping process, but often come back during the cure period. Give 'em a couple of weeks. Also, if you used milk ingredients those just stink at first but the stink fades away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbarber03 Posted February 16, 2007 Author Share Posted February 16, 2007 I just realized how bad my typing was in the first post! Nope, no milk. I used Darwin's basic recipe with the HP and then subed lard for the PKO in the CPOP batch. I guess I'll just be patient and see what happens, but it's so unbelievably hard to be! Man, this soap thing really is addicting! And I thought I loved candle pouring! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CareBear Posted February 16, 2007 Share Posted February 16, 2007 Man, this soap thing really is addicting! don't worry - it only gets worse:grin2::grin2::grin2: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LindaColo Posted February 16, 2007 Share Posted February 16, 2007 Sometimes lard has a meaty smell to it. However, there are quite a few soapers who use lard and never have a problem. I guess it depends on the brand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soapmaker Man Posted February 17, 2007 Share Posted February 17, 2007 Also be careful to watch the flash point of the FO if CPHP or CPOP. If your flash point of a FO is low, you can burn the FO off in the process by your temps being too high. That is why I personally like CPRT soapmaking. Plenty of time to swirl in colours, too!Paul.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbarber03 Posted February 17, 2007 Author Share Posted February 17, 2007 . . . That is why I personally like CPRT soapmaking. Plenty of time to swirl in colours, too!Paul....May I ask what CPRT is? TIA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soapmaker Man Posted February 17, 2007 Share Posted February 17, 2007 May I ask what CPRT is? TIAIt stands for "Cold Process Room Tempature" for your oils/fats and/or perhaps your premixed lye sloution. I store my master batch and premixed lye solution in my DW laundry room, high up on a shelf above the hot water heater tank. Only my master batch oils jug and my jug of premixed lye solution goes in there!Paul.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eugenia Posted February 17, 2007 Share Posted February 17, 2007 I'm with Paul. Since I started soaping room temp, I'll never go back. Slower, easier batches with plenty of play time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soapmaker Man Posted February 17, 2007 Share Posted February 17, 2007 I'm with Paul. Since I started soaping room temp, I'll never go back. Slower, easier batches with plenty of play time.Don't ya just love it! Since I only do goat milk, which helps "heat" things up a tad, it works perfect for me, and I can still get full gel if i want to since I use my thick Aspen wood molds with the top. My GM soaps have never turned out better since I started CPRT!Paul.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbarber03 Posted February 17, 2007 Author Share Posted February 17, 2007 Do you get a smooth surface with CPRT? It does sound quite intriguing, and a bit less of a hassle as far as melting and cleaning pots after each batch. Also, I'm on a well and spetic system, so I have to be even more careful with the lye! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CareBear Posted February 17, 2007 Share Posted February 17, 2007 I do CPRT (never knew there was an acronym for it tho). I don't master batch though. I try to set up the night before - making up lye sol'n and melting and mixing my oils (usually just throw all oils together in a pyrex box and nuking it). Let it all cool overnight and I'm good to go. (but be sure there is a safe place to put your lye sol'n if you do this).If I'm not doing it the night before then I make my lye solution using half water and half ice cubes (more ice is better but I never seem to have much) and then when the lye is all dissolved I stick it in the freezer to cool down. Then I melt all my butters in the microwave and pour RT oils (or colder - my garage is where I store them) into the bowl to cool those. I might have to wait an hour but it all cools down pretty quickly.If my oils look cloudy I might zap them to warm them just enough to clear - my house is super cold at night.My CP turns out nice and smooth - just like any other soap! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soapmaker Man Posted February 18, 2007 Share Posted February 18, 2007 You know, I think CPRT soaping may make the soap even more smoother! I have not been letting my soap gel lately. I just have been giving it a ggood 6 week cure before letting it go out the door. LOL Maybe I just think so! Anyway, I like this method very much! :yay: Paul.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbarber03 Posted February 18, 2007 Author Share Posted February 18, 2007 Sorry guys, I'm just full of questions. So if I understand correctly, if you melt and mix your oils and then let them cool down to room temp, will the oils that are normally solid at room temperature remain in liquid or semi-liquid form? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CareBear Posted February 18, 2007 Share Posted February 18, 2007 That's what I do.Others will actually pour hot lye sol'n over everything that's just the way the weighed it out (oils at room temp, butters still solid) and call THAT Room Temp soaping. It's a wild and crazy world, this world of soaping, where people speaking the same language, even with definitions in stickies, still cannot always agree!! LOL! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soapmaker Man Posted February 18, 2007 Share Posted February 18, 2007 Sorry guys, I'm just full of questions. So if I understand correctly, if you melt and mix your oils and then let them cool down to room temp, will the oils that are normally solid at room temperature remain in liquid or semi-liquid form?You got it! I use about 60/40 hard verses soft oils in my recipe. I measure out the soft oils, lets say for 5 or 6 -- 2 pound batches, and pour into my large holding jug. I them measure out 5 or 6 recipes worth of the hard oils, melt them until just melted, and add those to my soft oils. As long as the jug stays above 70*, at least for my recipe, it stays liquid. I procede to give my jug a good stirring, then weigh out my recipe weight of required oils/fats, and then weigh out the 50% lye soltion required for the recipe, make up the rest of the liquid as cold goat milk, and SB to any thickness of trace I want.I usually just emulisify the batch, making sure all is incorporated well, no lye left, then proceed to mixing my colours up in a small bit of batter, scent the rest of the base, hit with the SB, and do an ITHS oe ITLS or swirl in my slab. I can leave the top of my TOG Mold off for no gel, or put the wood top on and get a full gel.At least, like CareBear mentioned, is what I call CPRT soap making! LOl HTH!:highfive: Paul.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbarber03 Posted February 18, 2007 Author Share Posted February 18, 2007 Thank you so much for the information. I'll have to give this process a whirl as see how I do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soapmaker Man Posted February 18, 2007 Share Posted February 18, 2007 Thank you so much for the information. I'll have to give this process a whirl as see how I do.Great news:yay: Let us know how you like it!Paul.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eugenia Posted February 18, 2007 Share Posted February 18, 2007 It makes for super fast soaping as there is no cool down time involved, just pour your room temp oils and lye into the soap pot and go! Soap in minutes with little fuss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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