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I get a fine hot throw with 6-9%.

What's been driving me nuts with that wax is that I can't seem to predict or prevent a cave happening just below the surface near the wick. It doesn't seem to be related to heat temp, pour temp, FO load, or ambient temperature. Even repours have this problem, but only sometimes. And sometimes zapping the top with heat makes the top rough, but only sometimes.

I can't seem to find a commonality in variables with this problem.

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Sounds good guys...I'm testing Peak's cinn. buns at 8% in this wax. I had something weird happen...not really frosting but about 1/2" all the way around part of the jar that looked slushy. My wick got off centered so I'm heating the entire jar and will straighten out the wick (testing new jar, wick and wax...what was I thinking?!). I'm at the point where appearance doesn't matter as much as scent throw....I can always go colorless & hide a lot of imperfections. Hubby thinks I'm crazy as he can smell everything I burn but I have to get right over the candle to really smell it (hint of it when I walk in the room).

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My wick got off centered so I'm heating the entire jar and will straighten out the wick (testing new jar, wick and wax...what was I thinking?!).

Do you pour your testers without wicks? I'm not sure how you've been testing and if you've come across this tip before. It'd be easier if you pour testers without wicks, then when they've hardened, you can poke a hole in the center with a skewer, insert your wick and then heat gun it in place.

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It's not in a whole container full of melted wax, just a little hole. There's not many places for it to go.

Walk me through this...so you're saying don't fill a full container of wax/wick (like a regular candle) but instead fill it up 1/4, 1/2 way and poke hole for wick, wick it, heat gun it, let it set, then test?

My experience so far is I get different MP when I do a first time burn to about the last 1/3-1/4 of the container. I like to try the smallest wick possible for that container & see if the sides eventually catch up but need to keep burning the candle almost all the way down. Does that make sense? How do you know how the candle will perform unless you make a 'real' candle to test? I'm all about doing it easier so please help me understand how to test properly & get good results. TIA!

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Walk me through this...so you're saying don't fill a full container of wax/wick (like a regular candle) but instead fill it up 1/4, 1/2 way and poke hole for wick, wick it, heat gun it, let it set, then test?

My experience so far is I get different MP when I do a first time burn to about the last 1/3-1/4 of the container. I like to try the smallest wick possible for that container & see if the sides eventually catch up but need to keep burning the candle almost all the way down. Does that make sense? How do you know how the candle will perform unless you make a 'real' candle to test? I'm all about doing it easier so please help me understand how to test properly & get good results. TIA!

You fill the container with wax, just like you were making a regular candle, except that it doesn't have a wick. Once it has set up, you poke a hole in the center with a skewer, stick the wick in (no tab), and heat gun it in place. Once that has set up again, you're ready to test. This tabless wick goes all the way to the bottom. Eventually, if you get all the way to the bottom testing this particular wick, it may fall over if there isn't enough solid wax left to hold it up. At this stage you should be fine because there would be maybe around 1/2" to 1" wax left.

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I understood that but here is what I've been experiencing..."limp wick" :grin2: ...it has only happened a few times but it has drown in the wax towards the end of the candle life....doesn't make it to the metal tab...but only a couple of times this has happened.

:embarasse I see what you mean now--the wick will fall over once it gets down to a certain point. However, by that time one can determine which wick will work, then repour and wick normally for the final wick test. I usually fill a jar all the way, let it set up, drill the wick hole, and insert my wick. After a burn or two I can tell if it will work or not, and make an appropriate change if needed. In a 16 oz keepsake jar, I can get in at least eight burns before the wick falls over.

HTH! geek

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