CareBear Posted June 6, 2006 Share Posted June 6, 2006 what is the hardest butter you've worked with? I need to solidfy up my lotion bars a litte, but upping the beeswax is making them tacky.carol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDGM Posted June 6, 2006 Share Posted June 6, 2006 gotta be my cocoa butter I get from MMS.... that stuff is so hard I have to chisel out what I need to use! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eugenia Posted June 6, 2006 Share Posted June 6, 2006 Carol, I use 50/50 shea and cocoa butter in mine. 33% BW, 17% Cocoa, 17% Shea, 33% Oils.e Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CareBear Posted June 6, 2006 Author Share Posted June 6, 2006 Carol, I use 50/50 shea and cocoa butter in mine. 33% BW, 17% Cocoa, 17% Shea, 33% Oils.eI struggle with this - some people loved this one when I tried it, but others said it was too "melty" whatever that means.Oh, I guess you can't please everyone!I'm going to have to have some sort of system for rating these things:slickness v tackinesssoftness v hardnessabsorbent v coating/protectingany others you can think of?then I can maybe customize - a stick for the legs, a disk for the hands.... and something for the gardener BEFORE hitting the dirt! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guppygirl Posted June 6, 2006 Share Posted June 6, 2006 IMO, Kokum is about as hard as cocoa butter yet isn't quite as greasy/melty.HTH! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CareBear Posted June 6, 2006 Author Share Posted June 6, 2006 can't wait for mine to arrive!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crafty1 Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 cocoa butter and kokum butter. i did get some mango once that was just as hard as the kokum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheilaW Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 Sal butter is the hardest butter I have seen/worked with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singleyellowrose Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 I much prefer Kokum. Although, Illipe and Sal are both hard butters.Mebbe this will help you some:Melt PointsShea Butter: 88-100 F Mango Butter: 88 - 97 F Cocoa Butter: 93 - 100F Aloe Butter: 93 F Beeswax: 144-149 F Palm Stearic Acid: 135-140 F Kokum Butter: 99-104 F Illipe Butter: 93-100 F Carnuba Wax: 180 F Candelilla Wax: 156-163 F Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickie1st Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 Great Info, Thank You! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CareBear Posted June 7, 2006 Author Share Posted June 7, 2006 I much prefer Kokum. Although, Illipe and Sal are both hard butters.Mebbe this will help you some:Melt PointsShea Butter: 88-100 F Mango Butter: 88 - 97 F Cocoa Butter: 93 - 100F Aloe Butter: 93 F Beeswax: 144-149 F Palm Stearic Acid: 135-140 F Kokum Butter: 99-104 F Illipe Butter: 93-100 F Carnuba Wax: 180 F Candelilla Wax: 156-163 FI was just debating (with myself) trying to pull together just such a list. I lost.... So I'm glad YOU did it! Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singleyellowrose Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 IMHO, I would stick with the Kokum and Cocoa. Personally, higher on the Kokum cuz IMHO, it's better for your skin. Cocoa can clog pores. That said, I would still use the Cocoa Butter, because the generally public "knows" Cocoa butter. Doesn't mean it is better, but will make a decent product with an ingredient people know.Kokum is great for aging skin... must be why i like it!I wouldn't up your beeswax cuz like you said, it makes it tackier.. put more of the good stuff in it. If it's still not quite as hard as you like, then add a tiny bit of Carnuba wax. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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