tyru007 Posted May 12, 2006 Share Posted May 12, 2006 We have been experimenting for a while using Ecosoya CB-Pure in 4oz tins. Heating to 175*, adding soy based chip color until well mixed and then adding 6% (1 oz pp) FO at about 170*. We do not keep the wax on the heat while adding the FO and the temp drops to about 155-160 after mixing well. Wicks are an ECO 8. I've gotten to the point that I can get some very nice looking candles with very smooth frost free tops, but the hot and cold scent are not great. Placing candle in a small 6X8 room to check hot throw after 2-4 days and can barely detect the scent. We have tried about 8 FO from JS, Peaks and WSP that are reported (on this forum) to be some great throwers in soy, so I don't believe it is a weak FO. Should we try adding FO at another temp?Adding BW, universal additive, or other?Mixing the wax with another product for a blend?Any other suggestions before we abandon this wax? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idacandlelady Posted May 12, 2006 Share Posted May 12, 2006 Hi,I use Ecosoya pure and have great throw (hot&cold). I add Fo at @150 and pour at @ 140-135. Have you tried different wicks? I use HTP's with good results. You might try adding your FO at lower temp, if that doesn't work try different wicks! That is what I would do. Hope this helps, I really love the throw from the ecosoya pure. I tried the advanced and it wasn't as good(IMO). I haven't tried the 135 but I am satisfied with the pure!!! Also I use 8-9% FO load on most scents, but I really don't know why 6% wouldn't give SOME throw. I just like really strong candles!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyru007 Posted May 12, 2006 Author Share Posted May 12, 2006 After you mentioned about adding FO @140-150, I went and checked out two tins I first made where I added FO at 145*. They have much better cold throw than the current batch with FO added at 170-175*, so you may be on to something there with this wax.Anyone with experience unsing additives in this soy product? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyru007 Posted May 19, 2006 Author Share Posted May 19, 2006 I have continued to test adding FO at different temperatures (170*, 145* and 120*) using a FO and FO/EO combination. I have made the following observations:The candles made adding FO at 170* do not have as strong a throw as the candles with FO added at 145* and 120* after 48 hours.The 145* FO candle and the 120* FO candle have about the same hot and cold throw after 48 hours.The 170* FO candle has equal or better hot and cold throw than the 120* of 145* FO candle after curing for a week.Adding a EO/FO blend at 170* tends to lose the EO scent, even after a week of curing. The EO/FO added at 145* or 120* had a stronger scent even after a week of curing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giedre11 Posted May 19, 2006 Share Posted May 19, 2006 I don't do straight soy, but have read where soy "needs" more fo for throw. I think maybe you might try 1.5 ounces of fo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaybee23 Posted May 19, 2006 Share Posted May 19, 2006 I don't do straight soy, but have read where soy "needs" more fo for throw. I think maybe you might try 1.5 ounces of fo?I agree with giedre11. Unless it is a very strong FO, straight soy really does best IMO with about 7-9% FO load. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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