angiebaby Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 DH wants me to make a fisherman's soap for testing on his boat. Summer is coming and he really wants to do an experiment (totally scientific, of course:laugh2: ) to see if it really works. He has a "no skunk" policy on his boat. (For those of you who don't fish, when you catch your first fish, you throw the skunk overboard. If you come home empty handed, you got skunked).I have the anise EO on it's way. Since we live in San Diego, we need soap that will lather in saltwater. So, I know it will need to have lots of coconut oil. So my questions are:1. Since coconut oil can make a very drying soap and saltwater is drying...is it better to add some moisturizing oil and go maybe 75-80% coconut? If so, what oils do you recommend?or...2. Will this be enough like the salt bar recipe that it won't be drying but instead of putting the salt in the soap, the salt is in the water. In that case go 95-100% coconut?I'm sure that I will have to make several test batches for him....you know for the science of it all.TIA! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 I would go with 100% coconut 8-10% superfat and apply shea at the end of the dayIf you look around you'll find different sap values for coconut. There have been several test using the lower sap w/100% coconut that weren't drying at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinInOR Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 I always thought this recipe looked interesting.... "Break the Rules" http://www.teachsoap.com/rulessoap.htmlBut it's got GM which you probably don't want... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shonda Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 i love oo for moisturizing...interesting, i didn't know soap lathered different in salt water. here in kentucky i just have pond water. ok, i have to experiment now....salt water, tap water, water softened water, distilled water, pond scum water. great experiment for my kids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lindsaycb Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 I guess I wouldn't worry so much about lather for the purpose of the soap versus what we really want in a shower. Either way he'll be clean...right?I like to infuse my oils & water with anise seed too. & ground anise in the soap too for scrubby effect. I figure if you scrub, you get all the dead skin cells off and have more of a fresh anise fragrance left behind.Mind you, I don't fish. Its just my theory which could totally be off base too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angiebaby Posted March 22, 2006 Author Share Posted March 22, 2006 I always thought this recipe looked interesting.... "Break the Rules" http://www.teachsoap.com/rulessoap.htmlBut it's got GM which you probably don't want...I might try this later...I don't have enough soaping experience to venture into milk. It appears that is a tricky area and I really want to know what I am doing before I go there. But, I have that site bookmarked...I will definitely keep that in mind for later batches! Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angiebaby Posted March 22, 2006 Author Share Posted March 22, 2006 I guess I wouldn't worry so much about lather for the purpose of the soap versus what we really want in a shower. Either way he'll be clean...right?I like to infuse my oils & water with anise seed too. & ground anise in the soap too for scrubby effect. I figure if you scrub, you get all the dead skin cells off and have more of a fresh anise fragrance left behind.Mind you, I don't fish. Its just my theory which could totally be off base too. Actually, this was my plan! I wasn't going to infuse the oils but I found a huge bag of ground star anise and wanted to try to use that as well. I'm sure that it would hold it's scent better with the ground star anise.It's not that I am worried about lather...Even if it suds just a bit we are fine. I'm more concerned that he will be lathering in salt water and rinsing in salt water and will the end result be too drying? If his hands are too dry, he is more likely to have his skin split (even those fine ones) but they hurt in the salt water!Since part of the anise soap legend is that the fish can't detect the human scent (from the bait and hook)...it needs to be strong enough to take sunscreen off of his hands.Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angiebaby Posted March 22, 2006 Author Share Posted March 22, 2006 I would go with 100% coconut 8-10% superfat and apply shea at the end of the dayIf you look around you'll find different sap values for coconut. There have been several test using the lower sap w/100% coconut that weren't drying at allI'll have to try that as well in one of my batches! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KristinesShower Posted March 23, 2006 Share Posted March 23, 2006 When I first started soaping, I came across a website that had an ocean bar (lathers in salt water):Ocean Voyagers Body Bar (lathers in Salt Water) 14 ounces of coconut oil 2 ounces macadamia nut oil 2.7 ounces lye 7 ounces water 1 teaspoon lavender essential oil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simone Posted March 23, 2006 Share Posted March 23, 2006 I make a fisherman's bar that my hubby uses on fishing trips, but he always fishes in freshwater. I don't know if it would later in salt water, but I use a combination of 25% Olive, 25% Palm, 20% Coconut, 20% Shea Butter, and 10% Castor oil. I make it CPHP, and at a 6% lye discount.Simone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angiebaby Posted March 24, 2006 Author Share Posted March 24, 2006 When I first started soaping, I came across a website that had an ocean bar (lathers in salt water):Ocean Voyagers Body Bar (lathers in Salt Water) 14 ounces of coconut oil 2 ounces macadamia nut oil 2.7 ounces lye 7 ounces water 1 teaspoon lavender essential oilohhh,this looks nice!I like that has other oils than just coconut! I might use this one to start with and sub the anise oil. Thanks! And, I have macadamia oil!Thanks so much! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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