415 vs 6006?

[*Dee*]

I am debating on whether to start back with the gb 415 or try the 6006 or maybe even blend the two together. I am having a hard time deciding based on the searches i've done on here. So I thought I would ask all of you here that may have switched to 6006 from the 415 or experienced with the 6006 etc. What is your opinion on the two waxes? ct/ht? And in my research i've seen even though 6006 is a one pour wax a lot of people have to do repours do to sink holes. lol now I remember all the sleepless nights up researching before I started making candles years ago.

[Guest OldGlory]

I have used 415, years ago, and now use 464. I really get good results with 464. My wholesale accts are really happy with the candles made with it. My bigger acct with 7 stores doesn't like 464 in glass jars because it will frost depending on the FO used, so I went with 6006 to avoid the frosting issues. I do get some wet spots with 6006 and the narrower jars will get sink holes and it really ticks me off, lol. But I had to get rid of the frosting issues. They are happy with these choices.

You didn't mention what type of product you want to make with either of these waxes.

I don't have a personal bias against or for either wax, but... I get better ct and ht throw with 464. No doubt about it.

[*Dee*]

Sorry, I will be making mostly 8 oz and 16 oz jelly jars and melts. I have always used the 415 and it worked really well for me. I did buy 464 and made some test candles tonight with it, but I am worried because everything I read says you dont get the ht with 464 like you do the 415. So that made me start thinking about trying 6006 lol. Some say you get a better ht with the 6006 but it likes to get sink holes and you need to repour even though it's a one pour wax. I've never ever worked with paraffin so I'm a little afraid lol I guess now I remember why my hair was turning grey lol

[*Dee*]

oh and what type of wicks do you use with the 464 if you dont mind me asking? I always used CD for the 415 but thought I would try the htp 104 for the first testers. But I hate the wicks I get from this company so I'll have to order more from somewhere else.

[moonshine]

I used 464 for years and I did love that wax- for me the CD wicks did work best - but I am one of those that switched to 415

I do think the throw is better and I don't have the burn issues I would get with the 464- frost over time was also an issue for me, I have a couple over 3 years old still that the wick is buried from it "growing" as well

The 415 I do get some frost which I believe is due to some FO's but it is minimal in comparison to the 464 and I have some a year and half old candle with 415 that has not "grown" on me so far

464 does have good throw though - I tried so many wicks and never got the perfect burn- seemed it was always too hot or it would drown out and the melt pool would look like old yellowed crisco- the constant testing of the performance frustrated me into making the switch- 415 once I figured out how to get smooth tops has been more consistent in the performance of the burn for me and more fragrances seem to throw better

Edited October 23, 2013 by moonshine

[chrisasst]

I started out with 415 and I thought it was going to be the wax I stuck with. However some of the oils just did not throw well at all and I started to have wicking issues. I then bought a sample of 6006 and WOW. The Hot throw is amazing. The colors come out beautiful. Some of the FO's that did not work with 415 are now working with 6006. I am finding wicking is easier. In fact I think I have narrowed down one wick for almost all FO because it will catch up with the heavier FO as it burns down. (using 8oz JJ)

I am just blown away by this wax.

Get a sample from peaks first to test for your self.

I use 8% FO load and it works great.

[Karen M]

It depends on your preference, really, 415 is straight soy with no additives, while 6006 is a paraffin /soy blend., I personally use 6006 now, I like it.

[moonshine]

I used 464 for years and I did love that wax- for me the CD wicks did work best - but I am one of those that switched to 415

I do think the throw is better and I don't have the burn issues I would get with the 464- frost over time was also an issue for me, I have a couple over 3 years old still that the wick is buried from it "growing" as well

The 415 I do get some frost which I believe is due to some FO's but it is minimal in comparison to the 464 and I have some a year and half old candle with 415 that has not "grown" on me so far

464 does have good throw though - I tried so many wicks and never got the perfect burn- seemed it was always too hot or it would drown out and the melt pool would look like old yellowed crisco- the constant testing of the performance frustrated me into making the switch- 415 once I figured out how to get smooth tops has been more consistent in the performance of the burn for me and more fragrances seem to throw better

Sorry I don't know how I ended up here....thought I was replying to 464 vs. 415

[chuck_35550]

Try 85% 6006 and 15% 415. Heat to 185 degrees and mix color/fo for about 2 minutes and pour into clean room temperature jars. Use cd or cdn wicks for best results. You get less sooting and fewer wet spots. The ht/ct is very good at 6 to 7% and improves with curing. This formula is supposed to give you about a 50/50 percentage of soy to paraffin. HTH

Steve

[IwantItgreen]

Try 85% 6006 and 15% 415. Heat to 185 degrees and mix color/fo for about 2 minutes and pour into clean room temperature jars. Use cd or cdn wicks for best results. You get less sooting and fewer wet spots. The ht/ct is very good at 6 to 7% and improves with curing. This formula is supposed to give you about a 50/50 percentage of soy to paraffin. HTH

Steve

I do the same with a little different percentage (higher 415) and really am happy with this mix. CD wicks and ECO's work for me. I have hardly any trouble with wet spots or frosting.