chrisstine Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 hi,yestedar i was making cold process and took a recipe from a site recommended here, but i had the problem that the soap is still like pure.. it doesnt not get hard..this is the recipeSimple Olive Oil Soap 16 oz. pure olive oil2 oz. lye6 oz. waterHeat oil to 150° and add the lye to the water slowly while stirring with a wooden spoon.Mix lye solution and oils when the oil is at 120-130° and the lye between 90-100°. Mix them together until it comes to a trace. Pour it into a mold and let set 72 hours before unmolding. You can add scents, colors, herbs, etc. at trace.please help me what can i do now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuck_35550 Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 Did you use a stick blender? I would never use a wooden spoon, use stainless steel, high tempered plastic or silicone. Wood splinters get in your soap. Castile takes awhile to trace if you are using a spoon; whereas a stick blender will bring your soap to a slightly thin pudding trace. HTHSteve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JanetsCandles Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 I'm seconding what Steve said. Castile is a very slow moving recipe. A stick blender does help, but you could still be there a while. Also, make sure you don't have what's known as "false trace." You shouldn't have anything looking like separate layer on top of your mix, it should be the same color all the way through when you are mixing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisstine Posted November 4, 2012 Author Share Posted November 4, 2012 thanka i did use a blender, but since yesterday the soap is still liquid.. i dont what to do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cindym Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Maybe try a lager recipe, 2 or 3 lbs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LovelyLathers Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Did the soap in your other batch harden? From that post and now this I am wondering if your lye is any good or if you are not getting a true trace and pouring to soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisstine Posted November 4, 2012 Author Share Posted November 4, 2012 (edited) yes it work i made 3 different batches1 de crisco recipe that i found here... is the better and the other one was with cocoa butter and soyoil and both are good,what can i do with this one that is still liquid?this is the recipe of criscoEasy Crisco Soap3 lbs. Crisco (1 can)6 oz. lyeDid the soap in your other batch harden? From that post and now this I am wondering if your lye is any good or if you are not getting a true trace and pouring to soon. Edited November 4, 2012 by chrisstine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallTayl Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 Could be a few reasons...First - are you certain your olive oil is pure olive? Sometimes olive oil is adulterated with other oils with similar SAP values (such as canola) but different behavior in soap (not hardening, remaining spongy). If the color turns rusty orange over time that is another sure indicator that your olive oil isn't pure. My castile soap is hard as a brick within 24 hours -I have to cut it within 12 hours or it breaks wires on my cutter.Second - Olive oil soap takes a long time to trace. Looks like you added some heat - that helps speed things up. Another helpful thing is to reduce the amount of water you use. Your formula above used 'full water'. SoapCalc.net provides a space to type in your own number in the Lye Concentration% field. The default setting is for about 25-26% solution. Changing this to a 33% solution reduces the water to 4.1 ounces. With Castile soap I usually am in the 40% solution rate and am ready to move quickly as the soap will set up in the pot quickly.Third - is your scale accurate? Small batches are difficult to accurately measure. If possible, choose grams to reduce the error potential when measuring tiny amounts.HTH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallTayl Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 Oh - and for what can you do now with the one that is refusing to harden - if your mold is oven safe, you can pop it in to a preheated 170*F oven, turn the oven off and leave it over night. The heat will speed the saponification process and should get your batch to a firmer state quickly. If that fails, you can rebatch it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisstine Posted November 5, 2012 Author Share Posted November 5, 2012 thanks!!one more question... i do have one fail soap that i did before that i want to rebatch, i put in double boiler but it did work out, because it keep hard, i forget to make it little pieces, i just did big pieces.. what else can i do to rebatch?Oh - and for what can you do now with the one that is refusing to harden - if your mold is oven safe, you can pop it in to a preheated 170*F oven, turn the oven off and leave it over night. The heat will speed the saponification process and should get your batch to a firmer state quickly. If that fails, you can rebatch it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmzaha Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 If you have a crockpot you can shred your soap, put it in the crockpot with some added liquid, milk, sugar water etc and set the crock on low. You an also take your failed olive oil batch and cook it in a crock pot. I would wonder if you mis-measured your lyethanks!!one more question... i do have one fail soap that i did before that i want to rebatch, i put in double boiler but it did work out, because it keep hard, i forget to make it little pieces, i just did big pieces.. what else can i do to rebatch? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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