Ok, so I think I'm fairly done with my testing and am going with 415! I have been using NG for FO and I already have quite a few for fall and winter but am looking for a nice outdoors type for fall. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated! The ones that are fallish I already have (but yet to test) are: Hillbilly homebrew, Pumpkin crunch cake, Spiced cranberry, Apple jack peel, Orange clove, Country bumpkin, & Cinn. sticks (all NG). Yes, I see the problem.... I have bought 50 FOs without having my wax picked out yet....I couldn't help myself:o. I am interested in trying the following NG outdoor type FOs, but trying to keep it down to two...or three: Autum magic, Cracklin birch, Harvest moon, Harvest type, Twilight in the woods, Witching hour, & Vamp vogue. There's always next year to order and try more but for now, so I don't get into trouble, I just want to hear what you guys think are the best so I can pick a few Thanks for all your help, you guys truely are an amazing bunch! Looking forward to the opinions!