Oh Abbie.. you are a bad bad woman! They both sound good... but I may actually skip the manly one. I don't sell much to guys as it is and I already have a couple that they like. As for the Citrus & Herbal Thyme... Now mind you, I DON'T rebatch. I pitch!:laugh2:and chalk it up to a failure. However, for some reason I decided to attempt a rebatch on this one. I followed the directions for rebatching from Southern Soapers.. and by golly .... IT WORKED!!! Looks ALOT better than it did in its previous life and it's SMOOTH!!! So, since this worked, I will not be re making it for awhile.