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HA the x .43 is what I was missing.  I new it had to be something more. 

Thanks Sponie

WEll, the one i was thinking of I can't find, however there are at least 15 pages on google/youtube of package handlers being caught on tape throwing and mishandling packages. Soo... There ya go. 

1 hour ago, Candybee said:

 

Okay I don't even see a link for a vid

If you are on facebook or even just google, you can google FedEx package handling, and it's a video of the driver literally just chucking boxes around and one the one guy even purposely lifts then slams down on the ground very hard. 

It's shot at an angle from above and I don't think they realized they were being filmed,. but honestly as I said in my earlier post, I just automatically assumed this is how package handlers treat their packages. That's why it's always so important to pack like it's going to go through a tornado, because chances are, it's going to get treated like the packages in the referenced video at some point in it's transportation. 

LxWxH = V

Length x Width x Height = Volume  

I thought there was more to it than that, but that's what I have in my notes. 

7 hours ago, Sponiebr said:

I'm not exactly a newbie, but OK, yeah, I am confused... 

Nick!! I love me some Nick!!  

I think Ron Swanson is a male version of me incarnate. I loved that character.  

Yeah, I wouldn't consider you a newbie Sponie, however, I still don't care what my molds look like. LOL 

As others have said though, the more soap residue you get on them, that does kind of act as a "seal" and makes the wood smooth, however, it can look a bit stained when that happens. 

1 hour ago, Sarah S said:

Gosh, there are so many variables when it comes to discoloration. I make CP soap, I don't have a lot of experience with M&P, so I am basing my experience off of CP, but I have had oils discolor to purple, olive and yellow. I have had some oils with .5% vanillin discolor dark brown, and 5% discolor to a light tan. I test every single oil I soap with. You just never know what it is going to do with your recipe

Same exact situation with me. 

I've had FOs with 0% vanilla discolor various colors depending on the fo itself, and as Sarah said, I've had soaps with a very high percentage of vanilla not discolor at all. 

I did finally decided to resolve the problem, and yes, I use a stabilizer in every batch regardless of whether or not there is vanilla content in the FO - there are 2 reasons for this -

1.) it works with other elements besides just vanilla, so I cover myself with the discoloration, and

2.) I have all my labels for my main recipe pre-printed, and all I change on it is the name/scent of the soap, so this prevents me for either a) scratching the ingredient off of the label or b) reprinting the label myself not including the ingredient. 

Yeah, I'd call them too. That's a bit ridiculous. 

5 hours ago, Lizzy said:

looks like cold pour rustics to me...freeze your pillar molds, pour 1/4 way when wax is ready, slush wax around in pillar molds a bit, then finish your pour. 

This is exactly what it looks like to me as well. 

12 minutes ago, Myia said:

Does anyone know about Tim candle holders? I have always used glass jars, but I’ve did some research and they say tin holders reduce soot.... is this true? I also see that the tin holders are much easier to deal with when it comes to adherence and things of that nature! 

Depends on the opening size of the container. Size, shape of the jar, the wick system, and type of wax all contribute (among many other variables of course) to how much or how little a candle will soot. There is no 1 thing that will prevent/reduce soot. it's all about how the candle itself is assembled. 

HA I didn't realize there was a tutorial attached so my apologies. (also didn't read all the posts before posting) 

However, IF there is an overpour, it would seriously not matter too much what the embeds looked like or were made of because they will be covered with the overpour, and all you will end up seeing is a tiny bit of color poking out of the overpour, so I wouldn't overthink it. Just use a wax you are familiar with and like working with. Easy peasy. 

If you only want the tarts, then yeah, I'd pour them the same as rustic pillars, using a paraffin pillar wax pouring very cool, to get that rustic, lined look. 

I can't see it but know exactly which video you are talking about.

To be quite honest, I just assumed that all package carriers treat their packages this way. (Not every single package, but a a lot of packages, in every package delivery company there is)

I know several people (even dated a couple) who drive or have driven for UPS, and every single one of them flat out say if the box is stamped "FRAGILE" or "Handle with care" or anything stating to be extra careful/cautious on it, they purposely rough-house it to see exactly how "fragile" it is.

Ever since I got told that I NEVER mark my packages with anything that isn't otherwise required by law. 

On 7/15/2018 at 11:58 AM, ncraiders said:

I just found whitener powdered dye on BC.  That gives me a good option to look at.  I also need to find something that will give me a true black as alot of people complain that black dye end up more gray than black..  I am looking for all this before i order anything as i want to be able to order everything all in one day so it get here around the same time.

For black, since these are for beads and not candles where the wick can clog, or b&b where the color can bleed or stain, you can use more than what is recommended for those types of applications and get a true black. Any black colorant should work if the beads take color easily enough. 

I've honestly never seen a liquid white colorant for candles. Since you won't be using a wick, you can try using white pigment, but again, it's not a liquid. You could try a Titanium Dioxide colorant, most commonly used in soaps, but I'm not sure how it would incorporate in beads, I've never done beads before. 

On 7/12/2018 at 4:12 PM, Candybee said:

The only time I got a pool on top of my palm candles is when I took my candles to a market on a hot day and the ones with vanilla hazelnut pooled. But only those. They did get pretty messy and you could turn the candles over and drip the pooled FO. I assumed it was the FO that pooled on top. I just cleaned them up and tried one and it still burned fine and scented well. Sooo, my other guess is it could be a FO that is doing that to you. Does it have vanilla in it? Is it a fragrance that you have not tried before?

I have used this scent before, multiple times, in the same wax, in the same conditions, only difference would be the jar that was being used. 

No vanilla in the scent that I know of, but other candles made that day, with the same batch of wax that had vanilla in them, did not pool like this. I thought it was just FO at first too, however, it was a big pool, so I dipped my finger into it. It was definitely more than just FO, as my finger came out with solid waxy residue on it. As if the palm had melted along with the FO. 

As I said earlier, same wax, same scent, same everything except jar (and wick, but it was never lit), and this has never happened before. 

It seems fine now, and is burning perfectly in my test, but I'll be sure to test another one to make sure this phenomenon doesn't happen again. 

8 minutes ago, ncraiders said:

Lol at first i thought the same thing but then i realized that was a picture before they poured plain white wax in to fill up all the open areas in the jar with wax.

OR as is typical with stuff you find on the internet, they had no intentions of using an overpour. I never trust that people are going to do what we actually expect them to do when it comes to finding stuff online. LOL 

I just wanted to point out to anyone who wanted to do this, that if they did it exactly like the pic shows, it's going to not burn right. And if you use an overpour, it defeats the purpose of wondering what the tarts look like because they will be covered, so what would it matter? 

To me, it looks like a very typical paraffin wax that you would pour very cool (same way you would to get the rustic look of pillars) - I honestly don't think it is any other type of wax. 

However, I would not just place them in a tureen loose like that with a wick. That is asking for trouble and IMO there is no way it would burn right. The gaps and air wold make the candles/flame go out. You would need some sort of overpour, which would then cover all the tarts. 

Personally I love it and think it looks great, however, I would not sell something like this as it also looks very unsafe to burn, and the average consumer might just light it up! 

Place them in the tureen without the wick, and then you can sell as a tart set, or a wickless that they can put on an electric burner to melt the wax down. 

On 7/15/2018 at 2:37 PM, Candybee said:

Oh I love these! I think the bollywood is my fav. Love those colors, design, and scent combo. Does it make you feel like singing and dancing?? LOL

LOL Bollywood is one of my favorite styles of dance. I love watching it. 

The Paso Doble is another one of my favorites, and I've been trying to come up with a color scheme and design to make one of those as well... 

6 minutes ago, pcbrook said:

I could see someone in my family doing that to me just to get me all in a tizzy! 

LOL nah, seriously, my family could not give one whit about my candlemaking. They ignore for the most part. 

I would have thought it was just FO, but it was so deep, and waxy - almost as if it was lit for a couple hours, however, the wick was unburned, and the volume was the same.  

8 minutes ago, pcbrook said:

Palm doesn't melt that easy to begin with

EXACTLY! So I wouldn't have thought, even sitting in the sun that would have happened. It's NEVER happened to any of my other candles (palm included), even my J50 doesn't melt like that in the sun (gets softer but doesn't melt) 

I'm going to chalk this up to a weird phenomenon and go about my merry way, but keeping an eye on the rest of my palm candles that I set on my kitchen table. 

16 hours ago, moonshine said:

I don’t get it 

I don't either. 

I put it out in the kitchen again today just to see what would happen and it's perfectly fine. No more leaks, seepage, nothing. Who the heck knows what happened. 

Maybe I dreamt the whole thing! HAHA 

@BiaI moved your post to a spot it would be more visible and more likely to get more answers. 

I agree with Maya, have you checked with Candle Science? They might not tell you, however, they would be the only ones that would truly know. 

14 hours ago, Pam W said:

Ya know, as a consumer I don't give a crap about the personal relationship of the company owners.  As long as I can get the FO that I need (whether from Peaks or some other supplier)  I could care LESS about any personal issues between owners......its all about the supply...rather than the soap opera of the principals..........and I have better things to do than focus on the relationship of any principals of a company that I do business with.

Bottom line:  who really cares about the relationship of the principals??????  (Isn't producing a quality candle our main objective?)...............if not, then go for the gossip if that is what fills your day....just saying

Personally, I DO care, because if they don't care about hurting the person they once supposedly loved, etc., in a very public capacity, how do you think they are going to treat their customers that they could give a crap about except for furthering their pocket books? In my opinion that says more about their integrity as owners than anything else. And, it wasn't gossip when it was coming directly from the owners themselves on a very public forum. 

Yes, producing a quality candle is our main objective, but that is hard to do when a supplier puts their personal difficulties above taking care of their paying customers. 

5 hours ago, Shari said:

He could do the same thing in the future causing more upheaval.

It's happened at least twice in as many years. I don't trust that it won't absolutely happen again. 

Of course this is just my opinion, and although I don't use a lot of fragrance suppliers, and Peak was one of my main ones when they were local to me, I never have, and I never will rely on any 1 supplier or fragrance that I "must have" simply because of unexpected things happening to suppliers for any reason, this just being one of them. 

3 hours ago, Candybee said:

Have not had that happen before. One thought that comes to mind is did your electric by chance go out and the jar get warm? My gut feeling is this has to do with a heat problem. I just don't see 1/4" FO pooling at the top as being the problem unless its something new I've never seen before.

 

Who's palm wax are you using?

I asked my daughter who was home yesterday, and no, she said the electric never went out, the AC was going most of the day because it's been about 98°-102° out this week. Maybe it got in direct sunlight on the kitchen table, and with the glass of the kitchen window it got way hotter than I would have thought? IDK. 

It seemed like it was more than just FO though, because when I touched it, it had that waxy feeling and coated my finger when I pulled it away if you know what I mean, and when it resolidified it kept the crystalizing affect, which I also thought was weird. 

It is just a tester candle, so I will go ahead and burn it, however, to truly test I will make a different one just to be sure. 

This wax is Glass Glow from Candles and Supplies. 

The whole experience was/is just super weird... 

3 hours ago, Kerven said:

Is that a CW palm?

Asking because two blends that I experimented with had odd, unexplained sweating and they both contained palm-3.

No, glass glow from Candles and Supplies. 

3 minutes ago, TallTayl said:

Did you happen to stir vigorously?

Not really, I mean, no any more or less than any other time. I usually always stir about the same no matter which wax/scent combo it is.

I also had another jar (shaped a bit different, with a different scent and color but same wax and FO load) that I made at the same time, sitting next to it, and it seemed to be fine, without liquifying or resolidifying. 

So, a candle I made with palm the other day (Saturday I think) and the weirdest thing happened. 

I wish I would have taken a pic - anyway, while it was down in the cool basement everything was fine. Then yesterday I brought it up to put on the kitchen table because I was going to start testing it tonight when I got home from work. (new jar size) 

Well, when I got home from work yesterday, the top 1/4 inch was completely liquid, with melted wax and scent. I thought I had put too much scent in because this is a new jar and I only used 9 oz of wax. Nope, only used 3% FO as is typical. (.25 oz FO) 

Ambient temp in the kitchen with the AC on is about 76°. 

So I took it back down to the basement (ambient temp with AC about 70°) Monday evening deciding I'd deal with it later. 

I looked this morning. Back to solid. 

Umm ??? WTH man? I've NEVER had that happen, (granted have only been testing palm extensively for about a year, but) I know I've had palm candles in this same scent (different jar) in my kitchen, in the summer, at the same ambient temp and nothing like this has happened... 

Any of you experienced palm makers know what might be up with this??? @Candybee- any ideas?