MsPeachesDelight

A little late to the party, heh! has anyone tried adding jojoba to their candle wax blend?

Noted! Thank you. I think the reason why I’m not getting HT is because I’m adding the FO at 215-220F 🤔 I’ve following what most peeps were doing in one of the candle groups I’m part of.

Coco83 and Coco83 blends I always get up to 200, higher if using palm (to the palm temp). I add fo right away and pour hot. Gotcha! Would you go up to 215-225F or is that waaay to hot (Without Palm)? I’m going to make some testers tomorrow! 🙌🏼 I was going to try 200-210F with Midwest soy &paraffin. But now I’m thinking it might be too hot.

Hey @TallTayl - lots of debate on what temp to add FO's and what temp to melt coconut blends (ie coco83) and soy / para soy blends. Is it best to follow what the manufacture suggests, or do you always melt and add FO's at high temps?

If you ever sell that blend, SIGN ME UP!! LOL I'll buy it alll up.😂

VERY!!! and I agree. Take your time, do it right. I see a lot of crazy candles that shouldn't be for sale. The whole candle catching fire situation reminds me of the Goop candle! I've bought a few candles from a couple of small boutiques that were questionable as well. I remember one candle was a literal inferno in a whiskey glass and wondered if they even preformed any kind of safety tests 🤯 I digress, I'm really excited to test my candles! I have 1lb of Palm1 in my cart, also glass glow palm. Just to confirm, when you mean glass glow, you're referring to IGI R2322, right? and passing on the 486.

OHHHHH! GOTCHA! That makes sense! I will do those tests tomorrow night and I'm going to order Palm 1 and SP 486 - I want to compare it to my 487. Have you tried SP486? So basically, full melt pool should never really be the goal, because its dangerous and fights the goal of a good HT. Its funny because in the candles groups I'm in, a lot of people complain about not getting a full melt pool, and go on to double wick, or try larger wicks, that don't really belong. So, ideally once wick, and all that is figured out, if I have a 9 or 8 oz vessel etc, fill 8oz into a 9oz vessel and 7oz into an 8oz vessel and so on.. correct? BTW: the midwest soy/coco83/beeswax CT is fantastic so far! Now that I'm going to play around with Palm, is the cure time the same? 2 weeks? or does it shorten the cure time? YOU ARE A CANDLE GODDESS!!! THANK YOU a million times over

Hey! The edges look nice though, lol! I see what you mean, and your description is spot on, lol! Happy Friday! When you say (pardon my candle ignorance, lol! 😅 : Do not wick for full melt pool on the first few burns. Leave a bit of extra room at the top (don’t pour all the any up) if you need early HT. The chimney effect of the extra headspace will build the further down the candle burns to give more HT more quickly. What exactly do you mean? Can you pls show me an example? I'm trying to visualize it, while my brain is reacting like Winona Ryder at the Sag awards 😂

@TallTayl lol! With the palm wax, would you still suggest doing a 70/30 blend? I know some palms have a low fragrace load (3%), would I still be able to do 8-10% if blended with coco83? Thank you again!!!! you have calmed my nerves with your thoughts and tips

Thank you for replying! So, a perfumer who makes scents for candles as well made our custom blend. I did the wax in wax melter test, heat test on the FO and everything was perfection. Yesterday I made a 50 midwest soy/45%coco85 5%beeswax blend with 10% FO- CT is great!. and 50/50 soy10/coco83 - the CT is subtle. Im going to try the sp487 with coco83. Are there any other waxes you suggest I get a sample of? I know you're a mixer as well. Also, how the hell does Nest, Boy Smells, Le Labo and all those companies get such insane HT? What's the secret sauce? Is it because they go over 12% fragrance load?

Hello! I've been testing my candles for a year now, and its been failure after failure. Ive tried CD, LX, Zinc, UC, Woodwicks. HTP wicks, Aroma-lite, ECO, HPSP and no throw! I know HT is subjective, but in our focus groups people have mentioned that there's no HT. I decided to switch up vessels, since even the largest wick in aroma-lite, won't even give me a full melt pool. The vessel I used to test were ceramic vessels, now I'm switching to Glam Tins from makesy. I would love you assistance since I'm at a complete loss and ready to call it quits! Waxes I've tried: coco 83, coco creme (makesy), scorpion wax, soy10,sozo luxe soy, hemp wax(makesy), bw917, midwest soy. and I've blended some with mp117, 4630, sp487 and I couldn't get HT with any. I have beeswax and c55 as well, just haven't used it yet. Out of the waxes I have, are there any you suggest I try as a blend? I'm a huge blender! And are there any wicks I should try that I haven't listed? Thank you for your time. I truly appreciate it - a frustrated, but hopeful chandler

What's your go-to Paraffin wax now? Have any of you tried mp117?

I tried this, and it made me wonder if I should stick to wax melts instead because the HT was beautiful, heh! Is it possible to add c55 to midwest soy or will it harden it too much that it wont properly release HT? Alternative is to just stick with adding 5% beeswax. Thoughts?

3 years later.... has anyone in the US tried any of their waxes?

Thank you!

It's a shame that crisco isn't the same as it used to be -- I was tempted to try it, but later read it's no longer hydrogenated cotton seed oil. As for adding oils, what's a good percentage range? 5-10.. or higher?

Damn. That looks good!! Do you prefer double wicking? And yes, I keep reading how inconsistent coco83 is! What a pain. Cotton Seed Oil! Interesting! Speaking of I've thought about adding jojoba oil, but still not 100% sure whether that'd be a good idea or not, since I haven't read anyone using it in candle making. I use it in my skincare formulations and have been verrrrrry tempted to throw some in my candle blends.

thank you for this! Candle making is a science that's for damn sure. I'm attaching a pic of my clay vessel. The outer diameter is about 3.3inches and The inner diameter is about 2.8” height is 3.2” I have a few waxes. Aside from coco83, I have WWco’s coco creme wax (which I've heard is like ec26), WWco’s Hemp Soy, bw917, I have a bit of midwestern soy left, MP117, beeswax and 4630. I love blending waxes; it's my favourite part! Is there a wax that performs better in clay vessels? Or what really matters is the diameter and height of the vessel?

I’m a little ashamed of asking, but I’ll ask anyway! Does anyone offer wicking consulting? I enjoy the entire candle-making process except for wicking. I’m having a hard time with wicking, and at this point, I would much rather hire someone who is highly knowledgeable to help me.

100%! I’ve been reading so much about mixing and took advice from all of you talented makers ❤️I’m currently playing around with coco83 and MP117. I want to try beeswax and coco83 with a bit of paraffin. I’ve tried SP487, but I wasn’t 100% happy with it.

Perfect. I’ll add CD’s to the list. Any luck with Zinc wicks?

Thank you! Those are on my list!

Honestly, I’m starting to notice why! I agree. It’s NOT worth the hype. It’s so frustrating! What wicks give great HT with coco83? I’m finding lots of people struggle with wicking—including myself, obvi. 😂😭

I’ve been testing HPSP wicks with coco83 mixed with a bit of paraffin. I’m having issues with tunnelling and go out by themselves. So far I’ve tried: HPSP 377, 335, 300, 257 (45-63). There’s one larger size left to try, but I don’t know! Am I doing something wrong?? Should I be double wicking? The vessel diameter is 3.2”