funnygirl

Just an FYI. 3% of 1 pound is 1/2 oz. Likewise, 1 TBS is also 1/2 oz. BUT just like with fragrance oil, your best best is to actually weigh out the beeswax to make sure you are getting 1/2 oz. because Im not sure if 1 TBS of beeswax actually does weigh 1/2 oz.

Is that clear as mud?

In my experiances it really does depend on the FO. I have one that I poured in my J223 and it had no cold or hot throw at all, but in my soy it did awesome, and vice versa. I just tested candle cocoons Vanilla Voodoo in some straight soy, I only cured it for 20 hours. It is the STRONGEST candle I have ever made!!!!!! My entire house and even outside my house smells like this candle. Now I have to try all their scents and keep my fingers crossed that they have more that throw like this in soy.

To my knowledge, no wicks recommend you to trim them them that length. There are just some warning labels that say that, I guess for those that use larger wicks in any series. I guess it's geared toward the individual candlemaker. Like I said, my labels say 1/4 and thats how I test them to burn for that length. I also do power burns as I know many of my customers will, and I can definatly see a huge difference in the flame size when I have been burning a candle for 8 hours and the wick is long, so I can only imagine what my candles would look like if I wicked for 1/8 inch and they never trimmed. It would be dangerouse, LOL!

IMO, if you are always keeping the wick trimmed to 1/8 an inch and are getting a good burn, then you are definatly gonna be useing a much bigger wick then if you trim to 1/4 inch and get the same burn. I think for me, my main concern would be that many people dont trim the wicks at all, and thus could definatly be experiancing the blow torch thing Top mentioned. I mean, can you imagine what the flame would be like if they are supposed to trim to 1/8 inch and dont, and they light that baby up with a 1/2 inch wick? Yowza!

I think I would make sure to educate my customers on the wick even more so than normal if you sell. I believe a lot of people are familuar with the 1/4 inch rule. I have seen warning labels though that said 1/8 inch also. Different strokes.

With the palm I use, I add 2 TBS palm steric pp. to aid in release. I also use aluminum molds. On the wicking, you definatly need to wick up from your paraffin pillars, as palm is really hard. To get pretty crystal or granite look, you need to make sure your molds are good and hot when you pour. HTH!

Blah! Still didnt work. Maybe I need to clear my cookies or something.

Anyone know whats up with this company? I have been trying to go to their site to place an order for the last 3 days and the site is down. Tried calling and I just get their answering machine. ??? Anyone else getting through?

I am trying 464 am I am having pretty good results with it. I am not having the trouble with scent leaving at half burn. I use CD's 8-12 depending on the fragrance, usually test in 8oz SM.

Let me get this straight, you are useing a CD-8 up to a CD 12 in an 8 oz. square mason? I just want to make sure I am understanding you right cause CD 8 sounds way too tiny and I will be pouring testers this weekend too. If a CD works, then I definatly want to test it, cause the bigger the wick, the more probs I have with these jars.

TIA!

Wow, thats pretty darn strong! What kind of votive wax do you use. I use ecosoya pb, and I really love it. But I dont get that kinda throw with any of my scents, not even WYW in a votive.

Well, let me start off by saying that I currently use GL's 70/30 blend, but I am just starting testing with more soy. Im not sure what wax you are useing, but here is what happened to me last week.

I poured up several testers useing EL Mill wax. I poured all of them very slushy except 1. I was thinking like you, just hit it with the heat gun. Well, the more I heat gunned it the worse it looked. :embarasse Also, I noticed I had a lot of air pockets throughout, and I got terrible wet spots, and I didnt have either of those problems with the ones I poured slushy. As far as throw, the cold and hot throw is really nice.

Im not sure if it is just this wax, or if it is soy in general, but the heat gun thing just did not work out. I went ahead and ordered some of the GB 464 to test now, because you can pour it hotter, like 135 I believe I read.

Oh, some girl mentioned it so I had to go check it out.

I did pick up 18 cases of their frosted apoth w/wood lids they had on sale. But no oils yet. Hey, maybe you want to trade a tiny bit of some of their oil for some of that one oil I have that you wanted that I never mailed?????

I came across their site last week and am curiouse about their oils. Do they seem more concentrated? They are more expensive than many other suppliers, so I was wondering if their oils are simular to WYW, where you only have to use half as much or something like that. TIA!

I know your busy! I have 5 too. 4 of my own and I adopted my niece. Candle making is my relaxation time, LOL! Welcome to the board!

I spoke with Bruce, and he told me that they did not use the Mill wax. He said that the wax they use is special made for them. So, for all we know stabalized soy could mean anything. Some people "stabalize " their soy wax w/paraffin, beeswax, etc..... You have to watch the wording very carefully, LOL! I do know that they use the tempacure method. There is a pretty lengthy thread here on the board that you can dig up on that process. It's very interesting.

I use the 70/30 exclusively, and the absolute strongest scent I have poured is GL's Violet Musk. It will run you out of the house! I get great throw with most of the oils I put in this wax. But the VM is super strong. Also GL's Maduro & Indonesian Teak are super strong too. BTW, this is useing 6% FO. HTH!

Well, I can say I felt the same way. I emailed a couple of times and called a couple of times, no responce ever. But I decided to go ahead and place a small order anyway, and to my surprise it shipped the very next day. The products were excellent, shipping very fast, but customer service doesnt exist, at least not in my case, LOL! I guess if I have questions I will have to ask my other supplier, but as far as products Im happy.

Pumpkin Thyme from candle soylutions is great in soy. True, strong pumpkin without all the spice.

Another thing you can is to take your heat gun and and put it right on the base of the wick pin, turn it on for about 5 seconds, and then it will slide right out.

You just have to ake sure you put it directly on the base.

I am looking at the classic wax from candlesoylutions.com and am curiose if it is the same wax as the EZ Soy, 415 etc...????? Its at the bottom of their website and is the one priced at $37 a case, not the EL wax.

Anyone know if this is all the same? TIA!

It didnt appear to me that GL was "butting in". It came across to me that they were concerned about you personally, and the problem you were haveing. I read that they even said that if you would like, call them and they would take care of you. I do understand what you mean about not feeling like you can post an opinion, but you werent stating an opinion, you were asking a question. Im sure GL was trying to be helpful, and no one else has chimed in thus far saying they were having the same problem, so I really dont know who else would have answered your question. I know its hard to tell the tone of a conversation when reading written word, ecspecially on a message board, but it doesnt take a rocket scientist to tell when someone is being an out right smart arse either.

I have to say that threads like this really give you a good idea of the kind of person (supplier) you are dealing with. Some people are just naturally defensive by nature. You cant give them an answer that will make them happy. Seems that GL has done their best to answer the question that was asked, and is willing to do anything and everything to make their customers happy. I for one appreciate a professional attitude, and theirs cant be beat. You just cant please everyone, but its nice to find at least one supplier that tries.

I have tried 3 different suppliers so far for this scent. They all smell great OOB, but only 1 has actually thrown for me. Im useing a 70/30 blend (70%soy 30% paraffin) and the Love Spell from GL. Here is their link if you want to check them out.

http://www.greenleafcandlesupply.com/

Love it Christina! I bet it smells like heaven.

You should definatly check out Greenleaf. They have a 70/30 blend thats great. The link is www.greenleafcandlesupply.com

HTH!

Those look great! I really like the Missy candle too!