Soy-N-Suds

On 1/21/2021 at 11:26 PM, Belinda said:

Isn't Rattlesnake grass from Candle Wic? Unless Bittercreek has one too. I only have a few of their oils.

Yes, it is CandleWic. I though it was BC reading off my fragrance list online. That's what happens when you have too many oils 🤦‍♀️

they are one of 3 companies I get oils from since 2001 and I've never had a problem. I bought during a sale last fall that caused a delay. That said, my orders have shipped within 3-5 days from when I ordered.

their oils are nice 🙂

On 1/20/2021 at 6:05 AM, Daisymay66 said:

Would you mind sharing some of your favorites?

I forgot to hit quote, but look up 🙂

Bayberry, Black Cherry, Blueberry, Cappuccino, Cinnamon Bun, Cotton Candy, Cranberry, English Toffee, Gingerbread, Guava Fig, Hot Apple Pie, Lily of the Valley, Mulberry, Oatmeal Milk Honey, Olive Blossom, Pikake, Plumeria, Rattlesnake Grass, Sea Breeze, Spiced Cider, Sugar Cookie, my list is getting long 🙂 

I'm late to the party, but I tried all of them in EZ Parasoy.

They performed very well for HT and CT.

CD wicks, 8% FO, Diamond Chip Colors, and Pint Jar. 

I buy at least 50% of my fragrances from BCN. 

On 11/18/2020 at 3:20 PM, candlecraftshop said:

 

Thanks TT! It's straight sided, about 2 inches deep. I did try 3 wicks with HTP 1212 last night but it was sooting so much. I forgot to take a picture - will attach it later!  

 

Would HTP 105 x 3 work? Any premier equivalent? 

Just heard HTP wicks were discontinued. Research to make sure it's true, but you might want to put the work into a different series if it is.

On 8/23/2020 at 6:25 PM, KReeD said:

Wow!! I feel deliberately deceived! I called ASO and talked with them about their waxes because I am looking for something new. I was having issues with 464 after like 5 years of having a perfect setup. It seems like the past 6 months there is no hot throw. The lady on the phone said she didn’t know anything about 464, but recommended their Freedom wax since the melt point and pour temps were similar and I would be familiar with working with it.  Now I’m finding out Freedom is 464 after I just bought 45lbs.?!? 

Have you had a chance to try the "Freedom"? Since you are familiar with 464 you'd probably know if they are the same. I really like the Midwest for my 100% soy candles, but I am curious. 

49 minutes ago, candleshiba said:

@Soy-N-Suds Fascinating. I wonder where BC gets their wick? But I'm not following what you're saying. If you knew that CW wicks aren't the same as BC, and you're only ordering from BC, why would you continue using CW?

I order some of my fragrances from CW, so when I was sending an order in for oils I ordered 2 sizes of CD wicks I was low on thinking they would be the same. When I got them, they weren't the same but I tested them with new fragrance oils so I could use them. I ordered 1,000 of each size so they'll last a long time since I only tested 3 scents for each of the two sizes. The scents I had tested with BC Wicks I'm not interchanging with wicks from other places now.  

Wax melts don't matter, but for the sake of testing I stick with the same company for an Oil I make candles with too. 

22 hours ago, candleshiba said:

I know that wooden wicks come from the same supplier, but what about CD wicks? Or ECO or HTP, etc?

Just wondering if purchasing CD wicks from different suppliers will be a problem (eg - if a CD8 at CS is a different wick than CD8 at Flaming Candles). Thanks!

I learned that CD wicks from Bitter Creek and Candle Wic are not the same. I'm only buying wicks from BC after one order to CW. I'm able to use the CW Wicks AFTER testing, so there's no waste. I don't like testing as much as some people do, so I'm sticking to one company for wicks.

On 4/16/2020 at 12:29 PM, TallTayl said:

 

IkR? Maybe, just maybe, their production is more consistent than the operation in Central America? 
 

edited to add, I am grasping at straws here.  Their other waxes have been pretty consistent for me in the past few years since I discovered them.  Hoping I didn’t just jinx myself. 
 

their core business is candle wax, so the tolerances should be tighter than other companies with a primary market other than candles. I am tempted To try their 464, but need that like a hole in the end.  Perhaps for a craftserver experiment I may 🙈🤭

I haven't noticed any changes with Midwest Soy from batch to batch. I really like it and decided to make it my go to.

On 4/16/2020 at 1:12 PM, lovelyscents said:

@Peggy T also see this thread

 

 

I ended up not trying it. I couldn't find anyone who said they tried it. 

I use their 100% Midwest Soy and I like it A LOT. The only reason I was wondering about this was I wanted colored candles and something that doesn't have to cool down as much as the Midwest does. Midwest doesn't color well and it needs to be less than 105* to pour for nice tops. 

I use Midwest Soy by American Soy Organics and they recommend adding FO at 125*

On 3/5/2020 at 7:59 AM, Forrest said:

Great job! The only thing I didn't see was room temperature. For the most part we wick for an average room temp, but if your room is  warmer, or colder it will effect your test results.

Temperature and humidity. My new shop I've been in the past 2 years I've had to add a dehumidifier for the summer months. 

2 hours ago, TallTayl said:

I need to look through the entire set from wwco. There are different woods based on The amount of crackle they are supposed to produce. 

Yes, I bought two sample kits.

This wick is .030 original wood wick 3/4"w

My kids would say this is a reason to celebrate. I figured out how to add a photo! 🤣

Dark is Bitter Creek

Light is WWCO

On 3/7/2020 at 9:29 AM, TallTayl said:

Anyone else notice how shiny other wooden wicks are compared to those from wwco 

I can take a photo of a BC and a WWCO side by side, but I'm not sure how to put the photo here. 🙄 

On 2/29/2020 at 12:55 PM, lovelyscents said:

Which wick do you like with straight Midwest if you don't mind sharing?  

The LX series is working the best for me. I tested with HTP, CD, RRD, ECO, and LX. The LX outperformed the other brands in all categories: Great Flame, No CB's, Very Good to Excellent HT and CT, and Zero Soot.

I've tested quite a few in 8oz flint jar, 2.5"w, and LX10 or LX12 have worked depending on the fragrance.

I've tested only a few fragrances in pint jars and they have ranged from LX12, LX14, and LX16.

I use 6% FO, date the jar, and put them on a shelf for 3 months before burning. Often the are 4-5 months before I light them.

I use 6% for candles and 9% for melts.

On 1/15/2020 at 11:45 PM, Wax Boy said:

I talked to ASO and specifically asked the question if it was GB464 and the answer I was given was it was 100% Midwest with some form of botanical blend.  I have been testing Freedom the last few weeks and havent been extremely impressed yet.  I've been a Millenium user since I can get it locally.

I'm wondering with some time passing and perhaps some more testing if you have more specifics on the Freedom Soy?

I have one and use it for lotion. It would work good for what your thinking. I just don't make enough of one scent in wax to use it for that.

I use 8oz flint jar and 100% Midwest soy or a custom parasoy blend. I make test candles and put them on my shelf for 3-4 months before lighting. I start with 100% soy and after the cure if the scent isn't strong enough for me I do the parasoy. The parasoy I cure 6 weeks before burning. I use 6% for almost every scent. Some over powering scents I use 5%. I never go more than 6%.

editing to add

I have very few parasoy candles. There are a few scents I wanted in candles that just don't work in soy.

When I picked up my last order at their facility, (April 2019) they were in the process of adding 'new' Soy products. The owner told me that much, but no details. She said it would be out before the end of the year (2019). I'd be very surprised if they were just repackaging somebody else's product. They have conveyer belts with overhead equipment that drops liquid wax that dries into the pellet forms. HUGE and impressive. It's made in the building where I pick it up.

On 12/17/2019 at 8:26 AM, TallTayl said:

Didn‘t ASO recently announce the production of GB464 in pellet form? Between this and the microwave soy offered on the site, not sure if the new waxes are not just something “old” repackaged into something “new”.

I don't know? 🤷‍♀️

I use their Midwest and they have added some "new" ("old") and I thought I'd see if anyone here has tried it. I do like the pellet form that Midwest is sold in. It's so easy!

On 12/17/2019 at 7:59 AM, franu61 said:

I have not tried these.  I did love the millennium wax, but with shipping, it got too expensive for me. The freedom is a little better price, I may have to try some.  Wish they'd say what's in it.

I used Millennium for several years (5 years) from Enchanted Lites. Yes, it got very expensive and when I sold my storefront I couldn't buy in bulk like I used to. I've been using Midwest straight for my Soy candles and use it in my proprietary blend for my parasoy.

i don't know that I want to try a new wax, but I was wondering if anyone knows since I buy from them. 

Have any of you used these wax beads by American Soy Organics?