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    Favorite wax for melts

    in Wickless

    Posted

    New year, new adventures with wax testing!  Trappeur was so kind as to start a thread in the candlemaking section titled "Taking a poll on the best "proven" best throwing wax".   I thought maybe we could update / add to this thread for the wickless / melts aspect.  

     

    I am stuck between CW 141 and 129.  The 141 is creamier but slightly dimples and may have a hard time achieving its best throw on some warmers due to its higher MP (as I started in a separate topic) whereas the 129 takes color easier as it is more transparent and has a lower MP...but may not last as long or be as forgiving on oils that 141 is.  Has anyone else debated between these two by chance?  I like CW over IGI as they seem more consistent usually.  Having said that, the recent thread on 129 in the clamshells that looks and performs totally different has me a little put back in my statement.  Will continue to battle these two out.  Really do not like blending waxes which to me is just additives overload and extra work if one is superb on its own.  

    What do you charge for a 16oz jar candle?

    in General Candle Making Discussions

    Posted

    On 1/31/2019 at 11:47 AM, Candybee said:

     

    This is good news. Currently I am making 12oz jars and have wanted to go back to making 16oz. I charge $15 for the 12oz. Looking at my COG spreadsheet I would have to charge in the range of $20 - $22 for the 16oz jars. So its good to know your customers are accepting. I may give it a try next fall and offer a few to test my market out. Folks around here have a lot of other chandlers to buy their candles from (mostly soy) and their candles tend to be in a smaller price range so I have my competition to deal with.

    Same here, the "soy is best" hype is all around me and not to mention them selling 8 ounce jelly jars for $5, 16 ounce for $10.

    Jar scoopables melting in heat?!

    in Wickless

    Posted

    I know many ship candles that use softer container waxes without issues, so why would a wickless jar be any different?  I have seen popular wax vendors who sell scoops exclusively with great success, and all year round for that matter.  I know a particular vendor (only sold scoops all year round) that is now retired that never used ice packs along with orders, so it makes me believe it can be done.  I ask this very question as I prefer scoops to candles myself and would like to get my customers on board.  However, all I picture upon arrival is sweating tops or half melted wax 😨😓 and would not want to introduce something that can only be offered locally.

    Are warmers hot enough lately?

    in Wickless

    Posted

    Other than square dishes (wax hang up in the corners), low watt wall plug ins, and a large clamshell company who sells lower watt warmers (Scen**y)...would you say majority of warmers get hot enough nowadays to use a wax like CBL 141, 4625, or palm without blending in a container wax?  I feel these 3 waxes perform very well on their own for me using hot plates, but not all customers use hot plates.  Every wax actually is throwing amazing for me in quality oils as far as paraffin and palm goes (including CBL 125, 4786, 4630, CBL 129).  Some that say the throw is lighter (which is not very often as I use great oils), I wonder if it just may be the wattage of the warmer they're using and not my melts themselves?  I know I could just eliminate this concern by blending container with one of the 3 mentioned initially, but I like hard clean tarts for warmers.  Plus since it throws so great on its own, why work harder for the same result?  

    Gain

    in The Flaming Candle

    Posted

    Melts

    wax used: 4625, 4786, 4794, KY parasoy (Problend 650)

    fragrance load (%): 10%

    average cure time: 1 week

    Wax additives: none

    Cold throw: excellent

    Hot Throw: excellent

    Purchased: 2018

    This is so strong and can be used at a lower %, very true to the dupe.  I also found this oil to last the longest out of the other gain type oils I have tried.

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    Hansel and Gretel's House (H&G)

    in Candle Science

    Posted

    Melts

    wax used: 4625, 4786, 4625/4630

    fragrance load (%): 10%

    average cure time: 1 week

    Wax additives: none

    Cold throw: excellent

    Hot Throw: excellent

    Purchased: 2018

    The other 2 suppliers I found to be similar are Bulk Apothecary and Millcreek Spicy Gingerbread.

    Grandma's Cupboard

    in AromaHaven /Rustic Escentuals

    Posted

    Melts

    wax used: 4625/4786, KY 133 (Problend 450), 4625/4630

    fragrance load (%): 10%

    average cure time: 1 week

    Wax additives: none

    Cold throw: excellent

    Hot Throw: excellent

    Purchased: 2016, 2017 and 2018

    I wouldn't say this is a spot on oatmeal cookie but it is a nice, warm spiced oil.

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