lightmyfire

17 hours ago, NightLight said:

You can the following. Change the pour temp, change the cooling procedure, modify the wax.

Most likely the 4630 is hardening the wax enough when the wax cools, it pulls away in jar.

Better adhesion comes with softer wax. Instead of 4630, you could try 4627 or another soft parrafin.

if you are having trouble with CD wick. Test with jar a little more than half full to determine happy place for wick.

You should try 4-6 CD wicks.

Thank you!  I may give another paraffin wax a try or just find a better pre-made wax.  CD 4 or 6 are WAY too hot except in the heavy fall fragrances.  I have some FO's that are burning super hot even with a CDN 4, so I've had to try HTP 62.  I thought that adding some additional paraffin would help to allow me to keep the CD's but it hasn't helped at all with the 4630.  Oh the joys of chandling 🤪

34 minutes ago, TallTayl said:

Does he last little bit retract from the glass when the jars are cold? I’ve chilled some candles hoping for full glass release.  Overall, I don’t think too many customers even notice like we do.  
 

sometimes people have different luck pre-washing the glass. 

Just now, lightmyfire said:

I believe that is exactly what is happening.  I've chilled in the past but my business has gotten so busy that I just can't add another step to the process.  

I think I'll try washing instead of just wiping with alcohol.  Any idea why that might work?

1 hour ago, bfroberts said:

There is no fix. I have used both waxes extensively. The 130 has better adhesion on its own but it’s not 100%. 4630 has crappy adhesion at any percentage no matter what you do.

What wick series did you have the best results with in 130?  I find that CD's are like torches at any size in this wax.  Seems like HTP's burn cooler but the HT isn't as outstanding as with the CD's.   I switched to this from 6006 because it just got too "unpredictable" but now I'm having second thoughts.  

2 hours ago, DeliriumNotDelight said:

I don't worry about glass adhesion, personally. You can't really control it. 

I wish I could ignore it, believe me 🤪

What I would give for someone to solve this mystery that has plagued my candles for 4 years.  I use CBL 130 and I blend in a little 4630 paraffin for better scent throw.  Call me crazy but it's a good blend.  I use 7-8% FO.  I heat my jars. I cool them in the jar box.  I cool them out of the box.  I pray.  And this happens 90% of the time.  The remainder of the wax pulls away beautifully from the jar except for this stripe.  There's no consistency of it being on the jar seam, etc.  

Help!!

I use my microwave 😀

6 hours ago, Marleigha said:

Does anyone else smell a slight Marijuana  odor in the Charcoal Tonka?  I was going to order it and someone told me it smelled a little like Marijuana, so I took it off my order.  TIA!  😇

I was the first person to review this fragrance on Flaming back in 2018--it does not smell at all like marijuana!!!!  It is a gorgeous, sultry scent.  You must try it!!

I use a CD 4 for that size jar and it works great with 6006

Hi everyone!  I'm a long time container candle maker, but for "fun" I tried my hand at pillar candle making.  It's always good to learn something new, but with every type of candle there are things that happen in the process that need some explanation.

I used 4045H, used 30 ply wick, heated to 195; added 7 drops of green dye and 1% vybar at 190 degrees, then fragrance oil 5% (I will definitely reduce this to 3% on the next go round) at 185 degrees.  I poured into an aluminum pillar mold 3"X6" at 175 degrees.  I cooled for 2 hours and then poked relief holes and did my repour.   I then cooled 24 hours.

I don't think it mottled quite as much as I'd like and there are some white spots on the bottom which look like they may have come from the repour for some reason.  Although I did a repour, the bottom is still dimpled.

Any feedback/guidance would be greatly appreciated!!

I have used those jars in the past with 6006 and used a CD 8 for most fragrances.

On 6/17/2020 at 4:22 PM, AMtheBeauty said:

I use 6006 wax and the medium sized jars from CS. I am having issues choosing the right wick to get a good HOT throw. Can someone please let me know which works best for this jar and also the type of FO load is recommended. Thanks 

I use CD 4 on this jar and I use this same jar from CS.  With heavier fall scents, I sometimes have to wick up to a CD 6 after testing.

On 11/8/2019 at 2:48 PM, NesbaJune said:

Has anyone ordered from Dream Vessels?  Their products look nice online, but they don’t pay attention to people with small orders.  I’ve been promised my shipment for weeks now, and they keep putting me off.  I’m taking my business somewhere else.  

Does anyone know of a company who does what they say they will!?

I order items from them and they are always quick to ship and provide excellent customer service.  You have to be careful with them because they run out of stock on items frequently.

I'm hoping this conversation has come to an awkward by necessary ending

10 hours ago, calan said:

I've spent around 40 years designing and building race cars, telescopes, guitars, shop buildings, software, websites, precision target ammo, and everything in between.... and nothing has kicked my ass more than trying to get a clean-burning, scent throwing, stupid candle with only 4 simple components.  lol

Someone please spoon-feed me a recipe for a nice, clean, smelly candle using a 9 oz straight-sided jar with Problend 600, IGI 4630, or GW 444 wax...or any blend of them (I'm even open to a completely new approach, if those are just fundementally flawed waxes). I don't even care what FO or what wick series...I have samples of almost all of them.  

And BTW - I have a whole new respect for those of you that have achieved this.
 

(not quite as frustrated as it sounds... just a long day  )

I love your post--thank you for being so open, honest and transparent.  We ALL feel this way whether novice or seasoned in this craft.  Just when you think you've got it nailed, something will just change for NO GOOD REASON.  It keeps you from getting cocky 

17 hours ago, Jcandleattic said:

Honestly, I don't even know why candlemakers even worry about wet spots - I mean I know there are perfectionists out there, but in all the years I've been making/selling candles it's been my experience that the consumer doesn't even notice the spots 99.999% of the time, and if they do, they literally just do not care. 

What customers care about is scent first, burn second and that's basically about it. 

The reason these wet spots bother me SO much is because they just started showing up recently even though I'm using the same technique in the same studio.  It's extremely frustrating to try to fix something when you have no idea what's causing it.  I thought I had this remedied by pouring in the box with the dividers but that lasted for one batch.  If I had these silly things from the start then it would just be what it is.  I really hate that they have also started showing up in the clear glass jar candles--that really looks horrible.  

18 hours ago, Dreamer said:

I'm not a big fan of lemon, but I did sample Twenty Five Forty Three from Indigo. It's a dupe of Lush's 25:43.

It's a super sweet, super creamy lemon-lime scent and if I was a lemon fan, this FO would definitely be in my top 3! 👍

I use this scent as the signature scent for candles for my biggest customer; of course I renamed it.  This is a huge seller and let me tell you, it is STRONG!!  You can back way off on your FO% with this one.  It is a pricey FO but worth it if you want a powerhouse thrower.  BTW, I purchase from Flaming (their formula is not skin safe so purchase from another vendor if you want to use it in body products).

On 10/22/2019 at 6:44 PM, xxxAlpha71xxx said:

Hey all.  Anyone out there with ProBlend 600 experience?  I just started playing with it and love everything about it but, wow, is it soft.  I cored a candle I made a couple of days ago to take a look through the middle to see if there were any air bubbles, etc.  What I found is that the wax in the center of the candle was the consistency of thick peanut butter.  The surface of the candle is somewhat firm but you can still make an impression with a bit, but not a lot, of effort.

 

Is this something that will firm up somewhat as the candle ages?  Are you having to use Vybar or Stearic or some other additive?  Or is it one of those out of sight, out of mind, don't worry about it things. Just concerns me how it's going to hold up in warmer weather if it remains that soft 

That is interesting.....I've just started testing Problend 600 and I have not had this experience.  Are you letting it cool somewhere that is away from a heat source blowing on it?

21 hours ago, Wax Addict said:

Have you tried pouring at a hotter temperature? If you haven't already done so, I would try pouring between 160 - 175 degrees.

After taking a deep breath and walking away from my studio for a few hours yesterday, I decided to try this.  I poured at 170 and poured with the jars in the box they were shipped in with the dividers.  Can you even believe it?  It worked.  No lines.  Really pretty candles.  

Thank you everyone for all of your suggestions and for listening and actually caring!  The wet spots might come back which means I better get them delivered to my customers before that happens.  

Thanks for the suggestion--I was thinking the same thing.  I used to pour that hot and then to prevent sinkholes I started pouring cooler.  Now I don't have sinkholes but I have wet spots.  I love this craft 

So I poured 6 candles in my amber jars last night and used the Koozie technique.  Can you believe that the lines are even worse now???!!!  I'm ready to beat my head against the wall.  Starting to wonder if it's a glass issue?  So hard to fix a candle problem when you don't know what's causing it.  I will not be defeated!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

On 9/24/2019 at 9:31 PM, Pam W said:

OMG is the general public so stupid????????

ahhhhh..........yes

11 minutes ago, kitchenpups said:

Your brilliant idea of using the Koozies was wonderful. The problem for me is that my 3.5 inch cube glasses are too big for the Koozies. I prefer NOT to have pull away and the best way to guarantee this for me has been to warm the glasses before pouring. (another time consuming step). I thought that the Koozies idea would be perfect to hold the heat in and avoid pull away. I decided to look for Neoprene fabric and make my own to fit my cube glasses. Suddenly, I saw some silver insulation laying in the corner, because I always save packaging material so I can reuse it when packaging and shipping my candles. I decided to try using it and it worked wonderfully. I just cut it, wrapped it around the glass and taped it together. Now I just slide the glasses into them before pouring at 150 degrees and ... NO MORE pull away. Thank you so much for the idea.

 

Below is with and without the pull away. The one on the left has the undesired pull-away ... the one on the right is perfect using the homemade insulated Koozies.

Below is a picture of my homemade insulated Koozies. I was able to get a dozen from the sheet that I had.

 

Wow--that's fantastic!!  I have been using pieces of felt that I wrap around and sometimes those work but where the felt overlaps where I wrap it around causes the pull away I believe, because it's double insulated.  Hope that makes sense.  

Any idea where I can purchase this silver insulation?  I would be fantastic to use for all of my different sized jars.  

Thanks for sharing!!

10 hours ago, Belinda said:

I had actually thought about bourbon pumpkin or bourbon pumpkin pie! Maybe that's what I'll use. Thank you!

What other scents do you use from them? We're not too far from each other. I may have already told you that though. I forget who all I've talked to on here that live in Texas LOL!

I just ordered the Dickens Christmas (16 oz based on the amazing reviews), got it in yesterday and already poured a 13 oz red calypso jar and melts to test.  I haven't been this excited about a FO in a LONG time.  I guess I've just gotten bored with the run of the mill scents.  This scent is truly amazing.  Notes of clove, orange, cinnamon.........not heavy or sweet.  I love it.  

I also love the Drunken Pumpkin--different and complex yet so simple.  I also blend the LS Twilight Woods with FC Warm Vanilla Sugar for a scent that constantly sells out; smooth and fresh.

On a different note from another supplier, my all time favorite is "Fig Tree" from FC.  Please try it if you haven't.  Heaven.

8 hours ago, TallTayl said:

 

 

You could stick it in the fridge for a few minutes to shrink away that last little strip. 

Holy moly--------the fridge trick is the bomb!!!!  TT you are my new hero!  Why does that fix it???  

5 hours ago, CaptnKush said:

These work the best. You can get them at the Dollar tree. That jar is a perfect fit.

Thank you!!  As luck would have it I went right by a Dollar Tree after I saw your post.  Unfortunately, even though it's still 98 degrees in central Texas, they don't have any Koozies right now.  Neither did Walmart.  I found some on Amazon--I'll give those a whirl.  If that doesn't work these will work great for holding a cocktail while I'm figuring out this dilemma.  

The freezer tip did work-----love it.