dee263

Moonworks oils will be available at http://purefragranceoils.com.

This http://www.sks-bottle.com/340c/fin77c.html is by far the easiest way to fill lip balm tubes! I have two and would never bother with any other method now.

You should probably start a new thread...

Not sure if I can ask this question here or have to start a new thread. When my wax melts are done and there is no HT I havebeen pouring them into one big container. I have been using this wax to make pinecone firestarters but was wondering if I can use it again to make wax melts again (just for me, not to sell)

Thanks very much everyone! I thought they must be the same but wanted to try and verify.

Thanks Jeanie. I know she had a Christmas Pear. I just don't remember if it was called "Spiced" Christmas Pear.

Does anyone know if Bert had a Christmas Pear AND a Spiced Christmas Pear or where they the same oil? I always called the finished product Christmas Pear; that's also what I have on my inventory sheets. I have the opportunity to buy a lb of Spiced Christmas Pear but need to know if they're the same thing. TIA

Thanks for the info. Knowing which ones don't work is almost as important as knowing the one's that do. I'll look forward to seeing the rest of your list.

I have never ordered from NG and really don't need another supplier but...I can't resist any longer. I have been reading mindyw86's thread with much interest and have a few of those FOs in my cart already. The suggestions in that thread are for good FOs for candles, and while I make candles as well, I'd like to hear from soapers, though. What have you found that works well in soap, especially CP? TIA:smiley2:

Here is the video from a French soaper's blog "soapsession"

can you help a novice out by defining the abbreviations please... I do not know the suppliers-thanks

There is a sticky at the top of this section of the board with supplier abbreviations and links http://www.craftserver.com/forums/showthread.php?5492-Supplier-Abbreviations-and-Links

I hadn't placed an order for FO's from anywhere in quite a while so ... I went a little overboard :rolleyes2 I got:

Bayberry

Buttermint Candies

Caramel Apple

Cinnamon Balsam

Cranberry Apple Marmalade

French Vanilla

Gingerbread Cookies

Grandma's Swingin' Eggnog

Home for the Holidays

Hot Cocoa

Purely Peppermint

Pumpkin Souffle

Red Currant

Spiced Cranberry

Spruce Christmas Tree

Sugar Cookie

Sweet Pumpkin Spice

Vanilla Hazlenut

Vanilla Mint

Warm Apple Pie

Winter Wonderland

Some I have used before and got lbs of but quite a few are new ones to me so I got 8 or 4 ozs. I can't wait to start some fall/Christmas soaping!

I'm mainly a soap and B&B maker, although I'm going to start playing around with wax again. In my soap etc, I use FO's from Peak, Candlescience and Bert's, companies that I consider "candle" suppliers and others that I think of as "soap" suppliers - The Scent Works, Sweetcakes, Brambleberry, Tony's and Flickers/Moonworks. Most FO suppliers have information about performance in both applications but I do think that some places seem to specialize more in one application than the other. I also can't imagine putting some of the more expensive oils in wax! I'll keep them for soap or lotion.

Hi Nancy,

Both of these threads are very helpful in researching additives for M & P:

http://www.craftserver.com/forums/showthread.php?90126-M-amp-P-Recipes

http://www.candletech.com/archivedforum/.1395.html

Enjoy!

I've never heard of Full Moon either but this http://www.fullmoonherbs.com/ seems to be her existing site; the contact info is the same for both.

Add me to the list:

1. Freezin - 2/22/11 (BCN, NG, Fillmore, SOS, Peaks, JS, paypal, amazon- Visa

2. NaturallyTru 2/24/11 (CS, Fillmore, HF, BCN, NG, SS) Visa

3. Island Girl - 3/3/11 - Visa (CS, Fillmore, NG, BCN, C&S, JS, Amazon, USPS, UPS)

4. Annie123 - 2/11 (Discover not used in over 2 months - not in Paypal). MC used at JS - CS - SKS

5. jgcurtis - 3/3/11 (Fillmore, bittercreek (S or N?), Peaks, Fillmore, Brambleberry, paypal, amazon)

6. blt212 - 3/3/11 - Visa

7. deb426 - 3/1/11 - Visa (CS, Candles and Supplies, Peaks, Fillmore, Alabaster, Flexible Molds, Coastal Scents, ITunes, AOL)

8. Wessex - 2/11 - CS, Peaks - Discover

9. jaxxcandles - 3/2/11 - (amazon & various candle suppliers)

10. Dana - MC

11. KarenOH - Visa

12. blue - 3/3/11 - (CS, Peak, Candles & Supplies) MC

13. LuminousBoutique - husbands card but used for a few suppliers only - Peaks, CS, SKS

14. Ravens

15. Northwoods - 3/4/11 (soapers choice, Hoba care, past orders Peaks, CS)

16. AlwaysWondering - 3/7/11 - Visa NG, CS, C&S, ICS, KY, Aztec, TCS, DS, WSP, MW, AH, Elements, BCN, CMS, BS, Berts, SS, Tenn, SweetCakes, MMS, Peaks

17. Jewls819 - 2/11 - fraudlent activity w/cc # on amazon

18. candlelady - Discover (Apple Online Store)

19. Billie - Discover

20. Kigers24- 3/5/11 Visa- fraudulent activity w/cc on Apple Online Store

21. Brenda (OH) - 2/11/11 Discover - fraudulent activity w/cc on Apple Online, Net Flix, Airline Tickets, & Hootsuite. (NG, USPS)

22. debscent - Discover (2 business cards) that have not been used for supplies for well over a year. (C&S, Peaks, CS, SKS, WSP)

23. 1820house - visa debit - fraudulent charges 3/4/11 to 3/8/11 last known charges to candle suppliers with this card were to CS & Fillmore. All charges were made in UK

24. lovemylabs - 3/8 $1080.00 ... mine is a Visa Debit . Purchases use w/my card were from Nordstrom/Cedar Rapids, an AutoParts store/CA and Lobstergram (REALLY!?). I've used it recently for Peaks, Paypal, WSP, NG and CS

25. mzpickles - MC debit, attempted purchase Street-Feet.com (in the UK!!) last Tuesday or Wednesday. Bank caught it though. I haven't ordered any candle supplies in at least a month or 6 weeks, but it might be easier for me to list who I haven't ordered from in the last year.

26 - Beans . Last used at CS on 2-28. fraudulent activity on 3-1 ,3-5 , 3-6 all were in UK. I really feel strongly that mine was stolen at that CS transaction.

27. mindy5140-Visa person purchased Blizzard 3/8 $159.60. I've used the card at NG, Moonworks, and itunes.

28. coffeebean- visa credit card & visa debit card, have not used the debit card since 2009 at the following places CS, Bittercreek, Fillmore, C&S, & NG. Both cards were hacked 3-4 11

29. Nursenancy - MC debit - my biz card. - charges to netflix, xbox live and a couple others. I've used multiple candle suppliers, paypal, and amazon.

30. R.S. - BCN, NG and Candle Science

31. Skyblotter - usez peak, cs, fillmore, natures garden. rarely wholesale supplies

32.mparadise -Peaks - Jar Store - Bittercreek- Container & Packaging Supply, CandleScience used via Paypal:July, May, April

33. barbaranj - MC debit - charges to itunes February (edited to list suppliers: C&S, Peaks, Bittercreek

34. beesweet-testing charge to Visa at iTunes, in the last 2 months, used multiple times at WSP and Soaper's Choice, one time at Amazon, SGS

35. dee263 - Mastercard first fraudulent charges appeared 3/20/11. I'll update with suppliers when I get home and can check my records although I definitely used it at Bestbuy in February and December.

Can you provide a link to the page where shea butter is listed as allantoin? I have never, ever heard that anywhere; shea is not an allantoin.

As far as labeling to keep "ingredients as secret as possible" that is the exact opposite of what labeling is supposed to do. If a product requires a label with an ingredient list, that list needs to be complete and as clear as possible so the customer knows what she is buying. This page, http://www.fda.gov/Cosmetics/ResourcesForYou/Consumers/CosmeticsQA/ucm136560.htm

part of the FDA's website, explains what products are considered cosmetics. There is a wealth of information on the site about labeling requirements.

And I certainly wouldn't buy a product that couldn't tell me which essential oils are being used in a "mix of ayurvedic essential oils" even if it was at Whole Foods.

I'm a Peak's BRV user, too, in CP soap, bath bombs, body sprays, candles and tarts. It smells great and works beautifully in all of them! You can't go wrong with this one

Thanks! I use the Wilton brownie pan for cubes; they're about 1.5 inches square. I like your idea of making them smaller, though, since one cube is really too big for one use.

edited to add: I think I'll go with the 12 oz size.

I've been trying to decide how best to package my sugar cube scrubs and I'd like to go with plastic bale jars. If anyone uses these for sugar cubes what size do you use? I've found the jars in 7, 12 and 16 oz sizes but I'm having a hard time figuring out how many cubes would fit in each size jar.

TIA

Here is the direct link to the tutorial

http://www.craftserver.com/forums/showthread.php?t=73514

All of the tutorials are at this link in the "Tips and FAQ Database and Archive" section

http://www.craftserver.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=40

HTH

I just poured my first pillars in 3 different sizes 3 1/2, 4 1/2, & 6 1/2 they turned out beautiful! I did them in fall colors and scents. I am soooo hooked...lol. I am doing a craft show soon and was wondering what to charge for these. All I have ever made is 8oz jj candles. Thanks in advance.

These are the first pillars you've ever done? You haven't tested them but you're planning to sell them? How long have you been making and selling your jjs? Did you test them before you sold them? For how long? I think you need to step back and reassess. Maybe, with a lot of pouring and testing, you could have some pillars ready to sell in the spring. Maybe...

If you live in Ohio, Pennsylvania, Indiana or Michigan you can get crafters insurance through the Brower Insurance Agency.

http://www.browerinsurance.com/default.asp?sitekey=454091136&key=11231616

That's who I use; I'm in PA. They are reasonable and their CS is excellent.

Trudi,

I searched and couldn't find anything about any kind of animal testing on any of the raw ingredients that you mentioned. I also can't imagine why any of it would be tested on animals, especially since most of the butters/waxes/oils that we use are intended for incorporation into other products. Hopefully your suppliers can give you more concrete information. The only thing you might want to keep in mind is that while you'll be able to use "cruelty free" in your product description since you're not testing on animals, vegans do not use beeswax. If that becomes an issue you may have to reformulate with candellila or carnuba wax instead. Good luck with the account!

Adam,

"Terrorist" is not my label. That comes directly from the USDA. Media sources? Gary Yourofsy's quote came from an interview he did. It wasn't a sound bite cobbled together by an unscrupulous journalist. Yourofsky's quote most certainly does represent peta - it is his job to speak for them. I'll continue to "condemn" as you put it, any organization whose agenda is to legislate their beliefs. I'll continue to condemn a group who wants to put an end to my right to train, show, breed or even own my dogs, end farmer's rights to raise animals for food, end the rights of hunters and fishermen - in short end all human interaction with animals. This is the last I'll post in this thread. If you are truly interested, do some research; start with the links I posted earlier and I will be happy to discuss any and all points with you or anyone else in a OT thread.

Well, in all actuality the quote may not reflect the opinion of the organization or its supporters.

~~~~Obviously it does since this came from their "Humane Education" lecturer. A person who's job it is to tour the country lecturing on behalf of peta.

This was really my point all along.....just because you may have formed an opinion that portrays PETA negatively, your customers may feel otherwise.

~~~~~So if my customers support neo-Nazis I should try to market to that? I would rather educate my customers about the dangers of supporting peta or the H$US assuming those customers really care about animals.

Either way, I want to stress that I don't lean one way or another when it comes to PETA. I just haven't done enough research to justify leaning one way or another. All I've heard is what the media say and we all know how skewed modern-day media can be. People get quoted out of context, lies and false stories are published, etc, etc (not saying that this is the case of the above quote, though.)

~~~~You suggested using a company run by peta as if it were a good thing, You must have some positive feeling toward that organization. So do the research, read the quotes that come, repeatedly, from their own people - read their own website.

Back on topic, NaturallyTru, I'm guessing you got your answer somewhere in this thread, lol. Do keep in mind though, you don't have to pay any company to claim or promote on your logo/website that you offer Cruetly Free products.

Sorry for the thread hi-jack! but, like simplybeelightful said, you have to stand up for what's right and hold organizations accountable. Most people assume peta and their H$U$ cronies actually care about animals and want to help them. Most people think their local humane society is funded by H$U$. (They're not. H$U$ doesn't run any shelters. If you want to send money, send it to your local humane society or SPCA.)

You don't need a seal of approval to be able to say that your products are cruelty free. Whether a manufacturer of your raw ingredients has used animal testing or not, you didn't test what you made on animals.