Brewer Rich Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 I would like to explore piller candles and I have a question concerning molds. I am looking at Peak and they offer two types of molds. One is metal and has a base. The other type is a seamless aluminum mold. Is one of these molds better than the other? I would think the seamless molds would produce a smoother candle. I'll probably do round pillers at first as I think they might be easier to release.Cheers,Rich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjdaines Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 I like the seamless molds with the concave top, since the bottom of the mold is the top of the candle it comes out nice 99% of the time and the concave dip makes a nice well for capturing the melt pool. While you can use wick the mold before pouring, I like using a wick pin which I got from here. I get less void or air spaces using it. I will also recommend IGI 4525 wax. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ksranch Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 rjdaines - if you're using the 'bottom' as the top... how are you using a wick pin. I'm ill today, so it's probably in front of my face.. but I don't get it. I use the seamless with the concave too - but I wick mine rather than use a wick pin - asking because if there's an easier way it's not too late to teach this old dog new tricks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertgibbens Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 The wick pin is inserted through the bottom of the mold (top of the candle). So the base of the wick pin is supporting the mold. Wick pins are so much easier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stella1952 Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 I prefer seamless molds because they ARE seamless - no seam line to clean up. The thicker aluminum molds release the heat more slowly than thinner tin molds. I use wick pins in both. If there is no hole, I can still use a wick pin by placing it on the bottom of the mold and securing it with wick putty. When using wick pins from the outside, mold putty seals the hole through which the wick pin passes. Wick pins are very handy! HTH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puma52 Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 Like everyone else... I love my aluminum molds and wick pins!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scented Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 Either mold is great. You get shapes with the tins, which really are better off cooled in a water bath. The tin gets hot (you've been warned). The shapes available though can't be matched with the seamless aluminum. I prefer the aluminum because what I do to the candles I make doesn't muck up the inside of the mold and render it useless like it would with a tin mold if I were not ultra careful. The tins also need a mold release where the aluminum ones don't (or at least they haven't for me.) Get both and play with them. The shapes of the tins are really fun. The seams are not that difficult to trim, especially if you got the ones where the line isn't that noticeable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjdaines Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 rjdaines - if you're using the 'bottom' as the top... how are you using a wick pin. I'm ill today, so it's probably in front of my face.. but I don't get it. I use the seamless with the concave too - but I wick mine rather than use a wick pin - asking because if there's an easier way it's not too late to teach this old dog new tricks. Look at the website that I posted above, it shows the set up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brewer Rich Posted February 17, 2012 Author Share Posted February 17, 2012 Thanks everyone! I think I'll try the seamless with a wick pin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisR Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 I absolute hated wick pins. These pillar wick centering tools are wonderful and much better than wick pins! http://wickcenteringtool.com/product-catalog.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scented Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 I absolute hated wick pins. These pillar wick centering tools are wonderful and much better than wick pins! http://wickcenteringtool.com/product-catalog.htmAhhh I love the pins lol! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertgibbens Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 I used wick pins and centering tools and can run circles around anyone trying to standard wick multiple molds. For bulk pillar making, there is no substitute... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brewer Rich Posted March 4, 2012 Author Share Posted March 4, 2012 I purchased a 3 X 6 1/2 inch seamless mold. I've also ordered a wick pin. I think I know what everyone is saying about using the pin but I have a feeling I'll have to figure it out once I have everything in hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stella1952 Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 I think I know what everyone is saying about using the pin but I have a feeling I'll have to figure it out once I have everything in hand. LOLOL I totally resembled that remark! I remember holding the wick pin in one hand and the mold in the other and having many WTF moments... Holler if you get stuck! Oh - if your mold has a hole and you choose to use the wick pin on the inside and not on the outside (where the pin threads through the hole), a dab of mold putty and a crisscross of the shiny metal ducting tape (NOT duct tape - the real metal, shiny stuff) will seal the hold quite nicely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Fields Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 .I use both types of molds and like both equally. Each requires a different technique and can produce different looks. That's why I like both types. Don't use wick pins for pillars, never have. Use pins only with votive molds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brewer Rich Posted March 6, 2012 Author Share Posted March 6, 2012 Oh - if your mold has a hole and you choose to use the wick pin on the inside and not on the outside (where the pin threads through the hole), a dab of mold putty and a crisscross of the shiny metal ducting tape (NOT duct tape - the real metal, shiny stuff) will seal the hold quite nicely.If the wick pin is placed inside the mold will the wax get under it? I would think that would cause excess wax on the top of the candle.Thanks!Cheers,Rich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stella1952 Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 It can. Sometimes this is a problem; usually not. In the case of votives, the wick pin is always used inside the mold. HTH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TammyGCC Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 (edited) I use the aluminum pillar molds and I use the wick centering equipment. I do not know the proper name for them. I have never used a wick pen. I do use the mold putty. I have got wax all over the kitchen be for so a word of advice. Keep an eye on the mold full of wax while it cools. LOL I am serious. P.S I personally use Pam instead of mold release it works for me. But I only use one squirt. Edited March 6, 2012 by TammyGCC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brewer Rich Posted March 6, 2012 Author Share Posted March 6, 2012 It can. Sometimes this is a problem; usually not. In the case of votives, the wick pin is always used inside the mold. HTHAm I correct in saying that the base of the wick pin in votives is located at the bottom of the candle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ksranch Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 Am I correct in saying that the base of the wick pin in votives is located at the bottom of the candle?Yes it is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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