jsanger Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 I am experimenting with a new straight sided jar that is 3 10/16 " in diameter with 6006, 4630, and a combo of both. I like the look of the slatkins candles that are triple wicked but in my attempts to triple wick either they are way too hot or perfect at first and then drown out. Is there anything I can add that will slow down my burn? The lx 14s looked so promising but toward the end of every test burn there was just too much wax for them to handle (only about 1/2" Mp) and they drown. Any bigger wicks and the glass gets way too hot and by 3 hours the Mp is 3/4" deep. I have read about beeswax and coconut oil but just was wondering what you all thought? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HorseScentS Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 Have you tried zincs? They're good in those two waxes, and in my newby opinion they burn pretty consistently on each burn session, plus I've read they burn cooler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsanger Posted January 23, 2012 Author Share Posted January 23, 2012 Thanks for replying horsescents. I have tried a couple sizes of the Wu series and the 230s worked pretty well but burned too hot if I didn't continously stay on top of the wicks. So I tried the 230s and they were nice for the first hour but then weak flame that eventually drowned along with soot city. Zincs are my favorite so I really wish I could get them to work. Any ideas as to what to add that might up the melt point a bit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravens Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 When working with the IGI 6006, I wick the 12oz. Status jars and the 10oz. Apothecary keepsake jars with zinc wicks. CD also work well, but I prefer zincs. Have you tried two 44z? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsanger Posted January 23, 2012 Author Share Posted January 23, 2012 I haven't tried 2 44's yet with this jar but have tested 2 cd8's. The 8's worked alright but not great. I really like the look of the triple wick in this jar but its proving to be a real pain in the butt. I wonder if using reg. Zincs vs the wu's would make a difference? The main problem is even with the smaller sized wicks, triple wicking creates a fmp so quickly that the smaller wicks cannot handle. That's why it would be great if I could up the Mp a bit so that it would take longer for that fmp to form. Do you have any experience with beeswax or coconut oil in either of these two waxes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HorseScentS Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 I haven't tried 2 44's yet with this jar but have tested 2 cd8's. The 8's worked alright but not great. I really like the look of the triple wick in this jar but its proving to be a real pain in the butt. I wonder if using reg. Zincs vs the wu's would make a difference? The main problem is even with the smaller sized wicks, triple wicking creates a fmp so quickly that the smaller wicks cannot handle. That's why it would be great if I could up the Mp a bit so that it would take longer for that fmp to form. Do you have any experience with beeswax or coconut oil in either of these two waxes?What are wu's? Are they the low smoke zincs? If so, I've heard those burn hotter than the regular zincs. The regular zincs are worth a try, I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsanger Posted January 23, 2012 Author Share Posted January 23, 2012 Where do you think I should start? Maybe 3 44-24s? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravens Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 (edited) Never tried the WUs with those waxes. In my experience, coconut oil made no difference; the beeswax will help slow down the burn but I don't like using it for various reasons. I single wick the Status jars. With the keepsake jars, it all depends on the wax and FO combos I use; some I double wick, others will do fine with one wick. Edited January 23, 2012 by Ravens typo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HorseScentS Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Where do you think I should start? Maybe 3 44-24s?That's what I'd do, but what do I know. lol I think that would work because the candle shop owner who taught me to make candles with 6006 told me she used the 44 zincs in 1" dia containers, like votive size. Some of her flower pot votives that she poured had 44 z, and some had 51 z, but she used a very high FO load. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsanger Posted January 23, 2012 Author Share Posted January 23, 2012 Ok, I'm getting bummed out. Tried my 44Z this morning and they were a disaster. Within an hour I had a lot of soot floating around and by an hour and a half they too were drowning. I poured 3 candles last night without wicks, 1 plain, 1 with bw, and 1 with coconut oil. I am confident I can double or single wick this jar but I really like the look and the symmetric burn of the 3. I have rrds in now, not holding my breath though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuck_35550 Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 This is such a reverse problem. Most people will do anything to avoid multiple wicking, because of added expense and usually because customers don't like em. Everyone left zinc wicks when the lead scare caused customers to only buy cotton or paper. That's a good wax combo but it can be real finicky about fo load when you get to the wicking. I would try going up or down with the fo and double wick the jar until you get the best balance IMHO. Where do you get your wicks? They aren't all made alike you know.Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HorseScentS Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 Ok, I'm getting bummed out. Tried my 44Z this morning and they were a disaster. Within an hour I had a lot of soot floating around and by an hour and a half they too were drowning. I poured 3 candles last night without wicks, 1 plain, 1 with bw, and 1 with coconut oil. I am confident I can double or single wick this jar but I really like the look and the symmetric burn of the 3. I have rrds in now, not holding my breath though.Curses! Foiled again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsanger Posted January 24, 2012 Author Share Posted January 24, 2012 This is such a reverse problem. Most people will do anything to avoid multiple wicking, because of added expense and usually because customers don't like em. Everyone left zinc wicks when the lead scare caused customers to only buy cotton or paper. That's a good wax combo but it can be real finicky about fo load when you get to the wicking. I would try going up or down with the fo and double wick the jar until you get the best balance IMHO. Where do you get your wicks? They aren't all made alike you know.SteveLeave it to me to be the oddball I don't know what it is about the zincs but I always come back to them. For the exception of my straight parrafin containers which work best with cds my other waxes just seem to perform better with that cooler burn. As far as multiple wicking, this is the only jar that I am intentionally trying to triple, i normally will do anything short of standing on my head to get my jars single wicked. Most of my local competition focuses on more of the country look, which I like a lot as well, but there is definately a market here for more contemporary candles as well. I just want to have one choice available for those customers that are looking for something a little more unique/classy. That being said, I am glad the rest of my candles are more simple...LOL. BTW, I get most of my wicks from peaks. Horsescents- good thing I didn't hold my breath, I would have surely died of asphyxia by now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HorseScentS Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 Horsescents- good thing I didn't hold my breath, I would have surely died of asphyxia by now lol Well, heck, why not try three 51 zincs just to see what will happen. I mean, if that candle shop owner had to wick some of her flower pot votives with 51 z, maybe they're not too big for what you're doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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