Catlover Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 Has anyone experienced a problem with CS Cedarwood Vanilla causing yellow areas after curing in 464? (I don't use dye.) This is the only fo I'm seeing do this--I'm using 9% load. I'm getting odd yellowish areas either down one side or at the top. I'm guessing I have too much oil, but it doesn't happen every time, so.... I have noticed it happens more if the candles are exposed to warmer temps after curing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bella Rose Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 After burning, the area that hardens that was once my MP is slightly tinted. I only notice this with the dye free candles, obviously. Doesn't bother me, or my customers one bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bella Rose Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 Oops! forgot to add I'm using CBA and Peak FO's. 6% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catlover Posted March 3, 2011 Author Share Posted March 3, 2011 (edited) I don't mind after burning either--this is happening while they're just sitting there on the shelf and haven't been burned yet. I also just heard from one of my wholesale customers that one of the CS Lavender Vanilla candles has also turned yellow....but only one of the six she has on the same shelf in her shop. They're all from the same batch! Why would one turn and not the other? Same with the Cedarwood Vanilla...it happens randomly. Edited March 3, 2011 by Catlover Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuck_35550 Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 I bet those are the bottom of your pour pot. If you stir throughout the pour then it may be that the fo is really heavy and will collect as soon as you stop stirring. I had an fo that collected on the top and bottom and almost always the end of the pot was the culprit. HTH Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorrie Posted March 4, 2011 Share Posted March 4, 2011 Do you use UV inhibitor? Some fragrance oils can change the color of candles. Sometimes White cake candles that are left white will turn pink. Don't ask me why but sometimes they do. I haven't actually had it happen to me but a customer did. I have had some candles turn yellow and what I figure is it is the vanilla in the oils. Maybe this could be what is happening with yours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stella1952 Posted March 4, 2011 Share Posted March 4, 2011 ... or, knowing that this particular FO causes a color change, dye the candle yellow, orange, brown, etc. I use UV protector in all of my candles regardless of whether they are dyed. It wll not prevent the FO from changing the color, but it will help keep undyed wax from looking like old shortening and dyed candles from fading as quickly...I'm getting odd yellowish areas either down one side or at the topThis makes me think that the FO was not distributed well into the wax. When I have experienced color changes of the wax by certain FOs, it is evenly distributed throughout the wax. Once or twice, I have noted a color change in the meltpool from certain FOs.Ya know - a photo would really help... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soy327 Posted March 4, 2011 Share Posted March 4, 2011 (edited) Has anyone experienced a problem with CS Cedarwood Vanilla causing yellow areas after curing in 464? (I don't use dye.) This is the only fo I'm seeing do this--I'm using 9% load. I'm getting odd yellowish areas either down one side or at the top. I'm guessing I have too much oil, but it doesn't happen every time, so.... I have noticed it happens more if the candles are exposed to warmer temps after curing.Same thing has happened to me I use 464 and the same FO and yes UV and they do turn yellow in areas. I mix my Fo in good too, so I don't think that is the problem. It is just a quirk I think. I also use magnolia from Peak and when I burn only the melt pool turns a greenish color when it resolidifies, I love that FO and I don't mind it a bit it looks kinda cool. HTHStella I'll take a pic I bet hers looks just like mine. Edited March 4, 2011 by soy327 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soy327 Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 (edited) Really weird I went to take a pic and the yellowing is almost gone. It was down the side of the jar and around the top. Here is a pic. IDK why, it's mostly gone now. Edited March 5, 2011 by soy327 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deb426 Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 I think the unevenness is from frosting. That may also be the reason it disappeared. I have some oils that do this consistently. Blueberry Cobbler from CS turns my C3 almost bright yellow. Its so yellow it looks like dye. My oils are well mixed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soy327 Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 Oh ya that could explain it. Cause mine looked like a light swirl of pale yellow kinda marbled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stella1952 Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 I think the unevenness is from frosting.I concur. I have seen this kind of frosting many times with certain FOs. However, frosting does not turn the color yellow; rather it turns yellow (or other colored) areas white. In the case of FOs that discolor the wax, when this type of frosting occurs, it happens in streaks rather than spots.Personally, I would find another FO to use if this issue bothered me. There are few FOs that I suffer that cause major frosting. I have made a couple of exceptions because the FOs were so wonderful, but in general, I try to find another source for the scent. If I cannot, I simply don't use it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catlover Posted March 5, 2011 Author Share Posted March 5, 2011 Thanks for the feedback and I'm glad to know I'm not the only one with this crazy issue. I also mix my fo's in very well, both initially and during pouring with larger batches--I can't imagine that causing the problem with just random candles when the others are fine. Maybe that "bottom of the pot" theory is it. ?Here are pics: the first one is the one I just made a week or so ago. That one side is yellow, the rest is fine. The other candles in this scent that I made at the same time are also nice & creamy. This one was at the front of the shelf, and somewhat near a heat source, so I'm wondering if that was the problem? The second picture is a candle I have left from an outdoor fall craft fair that turned very warm--all the candles I had in Cedarwood Vanilla (no other fo's) got these yellow strips at the edge across the top. Both instances involve heat, but not direct sunlight. Hm...Definitely the vanilla-based fo's are the ones that cause grief, but people love them so what are you gonna do? :smiley2: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soy327 Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 (edited) Yep! that looks familiar. I had a couple friends that said it looked cool :laugh2:so I'm not gonna worry about it. I made a beige marbled for one of them it did come out kinda cool looking and it matches her decor so what the heck. That's what she wanted. Edited March 5, 2011 by soy327 Bad spelling LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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